Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Karl,
To add some information: I just got home today and logged into my headless server. First, all of my devices were last detected at 18 minutes after midnight. Fingscan had an error dialog that said Fing was not running. My event log was full of the same errors that Shutter reported earlier today.
So it sounds like the 19 minutes after midnight restart isn't happening, which is probably throwing the error.
Best,
Phil
To add some information: I just got home today and logged into my headless server. First, all of my devices were last detected at 18 minutes after midnight. Fingscan had an error dialog that said Fing was not running. My event log was full of the same errors that Shutter reported earlier today.
So it sounds like the 19 minutes after midnight restart isn't happening, which is probably throwing the error.
Best,
Phil
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Separately, it seems I'm having some issues with Fing's accuracy. My iPhones are showing as expired - despite the fact they're here in the house and connected to wifi. They're plugged in (charging). This seems to happen to most of my wifi mobile devices. Their status never updates. Any ideas why? They both sync wirelessly.
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Is this of any use?
One thing I noticed is the way my password is displayed in the log. In the first instance password entered=password: "xxxxxxxxxx" it is shown backwards with extra alphanumeric characters at both ends, but later on at FING cmd= echo 'xxxxxxxxxx' it is shown correctly. Is that normal?
Thanks for taking a look at this.
Simon
One thing I noticed is the way my password is displayed in the log. In the first instance password entered=password: "xxxxxxxxxx" it is shown backwards with extra alphanumeric characters at both ends, but later on at FING cmd= echo 'xxxxxxxxxx' it is shown correctly. Is that normal?
Thanks for taking a look at this.
Simon
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Stopped plugin "fingscan 4.10.13"
Enabling plugin "fingscan 4.10.13"
Starting plugin "fingscan 4.10.13" (pid 81236)
Started plugin "fingscan 4.10.13"
fingscan FINGSCAN--V 4-10-13 initializing will take ~ 2 minutes...
fingscan killing ping jobs: all
fingscan killing : 78594
fingscan killing : 78596
fingscan killing : 78597
fingscan killing : 78598
fingscan killing : 78602
fingscan killing : 78603
fingscan killing : 78604
fingscan killing : 78605
fingscan indigo variables initialized
fingscan leaving WiFi parameters at default, not configured in 'Configure'
fingscan ipDevice folder already exists
fingscan getting password
fingscan password entered=password: "xxxxxxxxxx"
fingscan get password done
fingscan loaded indigo data
fingscan FING initializing
fingscan testing if FING is running
fingscan FING running pids2= ['']
fingscan killing FING Processes pids all - ['']
fingscan testing if FING is running
fingscan FING running pids2= ['']
fingscan FING still running, pids = ['']--[]
fingscan FING cmd= echo 'xxxxxxxxxx' | sudo -S /usr/bin/fing -o table,csv,'/Users/indigo/Documents/fing/fing.data' log,csv,'/Users/indigo/Documents/fing/fing.log' >> '/Users/indigo/Documents/fing/fingerror.log' > /dev/null 2>&1 &
fingscan waiting for FING to start and produce output pid:81290
fingscan testing if FING is running
fingscan FING running pids2= ['']
fingscan killing FING Processes pids onlyParents - ['']
fingscan testing if FING is running
fingscan FING running pids2= ['']
fingscan FING still running, pids = ['']--[]
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan settings: iDevicesEnabled True
fingscan settings: inbetweenPingType parallel
fingscan settings: wifiRouter 0
fingscan settings: wait seconds between cycles 3
fingscan settings: password entered True
fingscan
fingscan printEvents: no EVENT defined
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev Stop called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan dev start called for xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.6 pid= 81319 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:15
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.9 pid= 81320 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:15
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.4 pid= 81322 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:15
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.16 pid= 81323 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:15
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.1 pid= 81325 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:15
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.8 pid= 81326 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:15
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.11 pid= 81328 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:15
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.21 pid= 81330 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:15
fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.13 pid= 81376 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:18
fingscan ping file for 192.168.0.13 older than : 2.9
fingscan killing ping jobs: xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan killing : xxxxxxxxxx-81376
fingscan FINGSCAN initializedRe: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Simon: some clarification:
- you replaced the device names with XXXXXX?
- the password in the log file is not shown in clear text only if you log the actually sudo xxx -s fing command its is show as it is.. my little homegrown encryption method..is exposed now
just saw in your log file that your base network is 192.168.0.x mine is 192.168.1.x should work, but will check if that poses a problem.
the log file looks as its should look... is it working now??
philc:
could you check ~/documents/fing/fing.log
it should show all devices coming back online with time stamp. If they are not in there they are offline.
if they are shown like this
fingscan should show them the same way. ...BUT if you have enabled PING in-between FING cycles, it will overwrite the FING info (set them to "down" ) if the devices do not answer to the pings
Also could you install v 4.10.13
thanks for you patience..
Karl
- you replaced the device names with XXXXXX?
- the password in the log file is not shown in clear text only if you log the actually sudo xxx -s fing command its is show as it is.. my little homegrown encryption method..is exposed now
just saw in your log file that your base network is 192.168.0.x mine is 192.168.1.x should work, but will check if that poses a problem.
the log file looks as its should look... is it working now??
philc:
could you check ~/documents/fing/fing.log
it should show all devices coming back online with time stamp. If they are not in there they are offline.
if they are shown like this
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2014/09/15 15:59:50;up;192.168.1.250;;;F8:27:93:59:9D:B2;
2014/09/15 16:00:47;down;192.168.1.250;;;F8:27:93:59:9D:B2;
2014/09/15 16:00:56;up;192.168.1.250;;;F8:27:93:59:9D:B2;
2014/09/15 16:12:03;up;192.168.1.24;;;90:F1:AA:38:DD:12;
2014/09/15 16:20:47;down;192.168.1.250;;;F8:27:93:59:9D:B2;
2014/09/15 16:22:44;up;192.168.1.250;;;F8:27:93:59:9D:B2;
2014/09/15 16:27:47;down;192.168.1.24;;;90:F1:AA:38:DD:12;
Also could you install v 4.10.13
thanks for you patience..
Karl
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Simon. looking at your log file:
192.xxx.0.13 is not answering to pings:
It means. FINSCAN has launched a shell script with a loop of pings for IP number ....13 and ...13 has not answered in 2.9 seconds. Hence it assumes it is "down". Then it killed the shell with the ping loop for that IP number.
This indicates that your phone is offline or you have a device that is not answering any PINGS like for example a VONAGE voip box.
Karl
192.xxx.0.13 is not answering to pings:
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fingscan launching ping for : 192.xxx.0.13 pid= 81376 theMAC= xxxxxxxxxx timestamp=50:18
fingscan ping file for 192.168.0.13 older than : 2.9
fingscan killing ping jobs: xxxxxxxxxx
fingscan killing : xxxxxxxxxx-81376
This indicates that your phone is offline or you have a device that is not answering any PINGS like for example a VONAGE voip box.
Karl
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Hi Karl,kw123 wrote:Simon: some clarification:
- you replaced the device names with XXXXXX?
- the password in the log file is not shown in clear text only if you log the actually sudo xxx -s fing command its is show as it is.. my little homegrown encryption method..is exposed now![]()
just saw in your log file that your base network is 192.168.0.x mine is 192.168.1.x should work, but will check if that poses a problem.
the log file looks as its should look... is it working now??
thanks for you patience..
Karl
I did replace the device names with XXXXXX - didn't fancy broadcasting my naming convention.
It appears to be working now. Whatever you did seems to have fixed it.
And thank you for your patience and for a very useful plugin.
Simon
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
13 is the lucky number ... will start with version 13 from now on 
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Karl,
Just got back from a fantastic break, can I ask did you find the problem that was causing the Mac to lock up? I've gone back and cannot see any reference to a fix.
Thanks
Gareth
Just got back from a fantastic break, can I ask did you find the problem that was causing the Mac to lock up? I've gone back and cannot see any reference to a fix.
Thanks
Gareth
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Gareth,
I saw you are using snitch. I tried that and had some problems, but not as bad as you described. I did some tuning with # of files open, but is it.
Difficult to test if I can't reproduce the problem.
Karl
I saw you are using snitch. I tried that and had some problems, but not as bad as you described. I did some tuning with # of files open, but is it.
Difficult to test if I can't reproduce the problem.
Karl
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Hi Karl,
Just to let you know I have it installed now and I've not seen any issues at all since, so it looks as if you caught it.
Thanks
Gareth
Just to let you know I have it installed now and I've not seen any issues at all since, so it looks as if you caught it.
Thanks
Gareth
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
some magic stuff is going on... happy to hear..
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4vawarc00v63m ... 4.zip?dl=0 v4-10-4
Fixed: minor inconvenience...
FINGSCAN restarts at 00:19 every day on its own .. just to make sure..
If the startup went very fast (~ 30 seconds) it might have restarted twice in the same minute. It could still be 00:19 when the second restart time check happened.
This version will restart start once only i.e. will not check restart timestamp for several minutes after start.
Karl
Fixed: minor inconvenience...
FINGSCAN restarts at 00:19 every day on its own .. just to make sure..
If the startup went very fast (~ 30 seconds) it might have restarted twice in the same minute. It could still be 00:19 when the second restart time check happened.
This version will restart start once only i.e. will not check restart timestamp for several minutes after start.
Karl
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
the latest version (4-10-4) previously posted seems to work fine under OSX 10.10 Yosemite
Karl
Karl
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
Hello
My hard drive died so I decided to put in a SSD and reinstall os x. I restored Indigo from backup, but I can't get Fing to work. I tried reinstalling??
I keep getting this in the log every 5 minutes:
10/11/2014 16.43.13
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error fing restarted successfully
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error fing restarted successfully
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error fing restarted successfully
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error fing restarted successfully
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error (re)started FING 5 times, quiting ... reloading the plugin
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan --> while loop break stopping ... quitNOW was:yes
Reloading plugin "fingscan 4.10.14"
Stopping plugin "fingscan 4.10.14" (pid 1035)
fingscan stopConcurrentThread called 2
fingscan stopConcurrentThread called 3
fingscan shutdown called
Stopped plugin "fingscan 4.10.14"
Starting plugin "fingscan 4.10.14" (pid 1740)
Started plugin "fingscan 4.10.14"
fingscan FINGSCAN--V 4-10-14 initializing will take ~ 2 minutes...
fingscan indigo variables initialized
fingscan leaving WiFi parameters at default, not configured in 'Configure'
fingscan ipDevice folder already exists
fingscan getting password
fingscan get password done
fingscan loaded indigo data
fingscan network found: 10.0.0.0
fingscan FING initializing
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan settings: iDevicesEnabled False
fingscan settings: inbetweenPingType 0
fingscan settings: wifiRouter 0
fingscan settings: wait seconds between cycles 1
fingscan settings: password entered True
fingscan settings: debugLevel 0
fingscan settings: FINGSCAN will scan Network 10.0.0.1-255
fingscan
fingscan printEvents: no EVENT defined
My hard drive died so I decided to put in a SSD and reinstall os x. I restored Indigo from backup, but I can't get Fing to work. I tried reinstalling??
I keep getting this in the log every 5 minutes:
10/11/2014 16.43.13
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error fing restarted successfully
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error fing restarted successfully
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error fing restarted successfully
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error fing restarted successfully
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error seems that FING is not active - no change in data, restarting fing
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan Error (re)started FING 5 times, quiting ... reloading the plugin
fingscan Error ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fingscan --> while loop break stopping ... quitNOW was:yes
Reloading plugin "fingscan 4.10.14"
Stopping plugin "fingscan 4.10.14" (pid 1035)
fingscan stopConcurrentThread called 2
fingscan stopConcurrentThread called 3
fingscan shutdown called
Stopped plugin "fingscan 4.10.14"
Starting plugin "fingscan 4.10.14" (pid 1740)
Started plugin "fingscan 4.10.14"
fingscan FINGSCAN--V 4-10-14 initializing will take ~ 2 minutes...
fingscan indigo variables initialized
fingscan leaving WiFi parameters at default, not configured in 'Configure'
fingscan ipDevice folder already exists
fingscan getting password
fingscan get password done
fingscan loaded indigo data
fingscan network found: 10.0.0.0
fingscan FING initializing
fingscan FING initialized .. created new data waiting ~ 1 minute for stable operation
fingscan settings: iDevicesEnabled False
fingscan settings: inbetweenPingType 0
fingscan settings: wifiRouter 0
fingscan settings: wait seconds between cycles 1
fingscan settings: password entered True
fingscan settings: debugLevel 0
fingscan settings: FINGSCAN will scan Network 10.0.0.1-255
fingscan
fingscan printEvents: no EVENT defined
Re: Using Fing as a new way to detect smartphone presence
(a) did your password change?
(b) you need to INSTALL FING -- copy does not work
try the following:
open terminal window and type:
sudo fing
then enter your password
if the password is the same and it works... FING should work fine ..
Then I need to think about whats wrong
try that first.
hope that helps
Karl
(b) you need to INSTALL FING -- copy does not work
try the following:
open terminal window and type:
sudo fing
then enter your password
if the password is the same and it works... FING should work fine ..
Then I need to think about whats wrong
try that first.
hope that helps
Karl