Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

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Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:12 am
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Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

Hello there!

Just a quick line looking for help trying to understand the graphic heuristics naming convention for control pages.

I'm trying to show presence status when the variable or device (ghost xml) will give me "present" or "not present) values. I tried with the following graphics either on variables or devices since I'm testing both. I'm using the following file names:

Presence2x.png
Presence2x+not present.png
Presence2x+present.png

This is how it looks in the designer:

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And on the webpage:

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But it always look for +on.png regardless of the variable or state being present or not present. Is there a way to make it work?

Thanks in advance!

PP

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Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:17 pm
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

Did you restart the server (not just the client) after adding the files? You'll need to do that.

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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

I *think* you might also need to rename:

Presence2x.png

to

Presence2x+.png

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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

Dave beat me to it 8) , but change this one from:

Presence2x.png

to:

Presence2x+.png

before restarting the Indigo Server. From the article about custom images:

"We've expanded the image selection criteria so that it can find much more interesting images based on values. To signify that an image should use these more complex image heuristics (described below), end the base file name with a “+”: ImageName+.png. The “+” at the end is a hint to the Indigo Web Server and Indigo Touch that it may need to contact the server for the right image."

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Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:08 pm
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

Thanks Jay, Dave and Matt!!!

It did the trick. Actually I did restarted the server and everything but that + sign was missing.

Cool... :)

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Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:55 pm
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

hmm...I've never realised restarting the server was recommended when adding icons, just closing/reopening the control page editor has always worked for me...

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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

agame wrote:
hmm...I've never realised restarting the server was recommended when adding icons, just closing/reopening the control page editor has always worked for me...

Ditto....

Matt/Jay, since when has restarting the server been stock response for adding images?

Fixing issues when you’ve renamed an image and confused Indigo, yes, but not just adding images afresh surely?


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Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:11 am
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

There are circumstances where it might be needed. The "you'll need to do that" statement could have been more accurately stated as "you should try that" as part of debugging. In this case it was a naming issue so a server restart wouldn't have helped, but when running through all the potential debugging steps this should be one.

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Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:07 pm
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

Should user created images that use the +on (ie: Hall Light and Hall Light+on) work differently on iOS vs a Browser? I've created a button, works in preview while editing the control page but doesn't on the iPhone. The action executes but no image.

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Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:06 pm
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

certainly works for me.
but a better cross-check if something weird is happening is using the 'show in browser' button rather than control page preview, then you can be sure you're viewing the same version of the page.

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Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:48 am
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

agame, thanks.

I only see the "Browser Preview" when editing a control page.

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Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:16 am
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

agame, found it. Show in Browser is an option prior to editing the Control Page.

Both Show in Browser and Browser Preview work (graphic changes when touched) while the iOS (iPhones or iPads) don't.

I'm new to Control Pages but is that the way it suppose to work?

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Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:09 pm
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

If you want live updates as you edit the Control Page (Brower Preview button) on iOS you'll need to navigate to the "preview" version of the Control Page which will be named _preview_Original Control Page Name. If the problem is you've changed the image but are still seeing the old image in Indigo Touch, then go to the Setting screen (gear icon) and there is an option to clear the image cache.

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Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:12 am
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

Thanks Matt.

The problem is that the browser view works and my iOS device don't. When viewing via browser the icon I created changes (from Hall to Hall+on)
On my iOS device the icon doesn't change.

Thanks

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Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:21 am
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Re: Newbie guidance with Control Pages Heuristics.

Did you try the option to clear the image cache in Indigo Touch (mentioned above)? Also try force quitting Indigo Touch and relaunching it. Does it then work?

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