Unifi + fingscan, what should I do differently?

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Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:53 pm
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Unifi + fingscan, what should I do differently?

I've been a user of the fingscan plugin for a long time. Recently I switched my network setup to Unifi, and installed your Unifi plugin.

Now that I have both the Unifi and the fingscan plugins, should I be doing anything different than before? Any configuration optimizations I should make?

Thanks!

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Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:13 pm
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Re: Unifi + fingscan, what should I do differently?

could you share your UNiFi setup

the Answer depends a little on your setup
WiFIAp
gateway
controller
switches
cameras
?

in general fingscan and unifi overlap to a large extend. But they both use various methods to check fore devices etc.

finscan actively listens to and traffic from devices (mostly broadcasts are important) -- but only the traffic that comes by the MAC, then it scans the network every minute.

Unifi depending of devices:
check wifi connected devices, likely faster than fingscan and accurate
if switch is used, track traffic through switch - can not hide from the switch
if gateway is used you can add DHCP info and some other


I found it still useful to have both

I anm in the process to make a plugin "EVENTS or homeAway" to combine info from
-fingscan, unifi and pibeacon and other if they participate.
you will be able to combine the info from devices from different plugin to better determine HOME / away status
it will have timers, Groups of devices ... ETA ~ 2 weeks - ... I am out for 1 week


Karl

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Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:49 am
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Re: Unifi + fingscan, what should I do differently?

This sounds awesome.


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Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:56 pm
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Re: Unifi + fingscan, what should I do differently?

I have a setup with like:

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USG -> Unifi Switch -> Unifi AC Pro
                    -> Unifi Cloud Key

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Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:56 pm
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Re: Unifi + fingscan, what should I do differently?

The "homeAway" is now working , try it

in addition:

unifi: if you have eg WiFi AP and switches and the GW you have >=3 ears listening to traffic.

fing(scan): can only listen to traffic that comes by the MAC ie broadcasts and onece minute it will send out BC and checks if the device is answering.

I have blocked some wifi devices from accessing the internet and essentially everything else (yes that makes sense) and fingscan only sees then when it does the scan, not when they try to connect . Unfi sees then as soon as they try to connect (the AP) -- these are my cheap wifi switches - amazon order buttons $5. Use them to switch things on/off

Karl

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Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:54 am
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Re: Unifi + fingscan, what should I do differently?

So you're saying that if I have the full Unifi setup (USG, AP, Switch, CloudKey) I should just use the unifi plugin, and not use the fingscan plugin because it is redundant? Thanks!

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Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:38 am
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Re: Unifi + fingscan, what should I do differently?

I have both and now only using UniFi.
Fingscan just as backup as I still support it.

The only situation where fingscan is faster is when a wired devices comes online.
The Broadcast is detected by fingscan.
UniFi also detects it but the plugin is only listening to the WiFi APs continuously for new connections. It will check the switch / uga once a minute and will detect it then. Have to check.

But wired devices coming online are not that frequent and it I don’t have any trigger on wired devices coming online.

Karl.



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