I don't think I'm getting this...

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Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:27 am
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I don't think I'm getting this...

I have purchased an INSTEON 2843-222 WIRELESS OPEN/CLOSE SENSOR which I want to mount on my crawlspace door. The door is used for storage of my yard tool and the family often get something out but don't go back and close the door.

I want to use the timer/pester routine to detect the door opening. When the door is opened, send a text to all family members. Got that worked out.
Next, I want a pester routine to countdown a 30-minute timer. If the door is still open, text the family again then set the timer for another 30 minutes. If the door gets closed, kill the timer.

I've read through many posts and any that seem to help are written in python or code. I don't work with code... Wish I did, would like to learn sometime.

Here was my approach
1) I set up the device and it connects fine
2) I created a door open trigger. when it senses open, it will send the initial text message. It this launches a pester named "Notify". The pester is set for 6 cycles at 900-second intervals. After the 30 minutes (900 seconds) it sends another text.
3) I created a door closed trigger. When it senses the closed door, it will send a text and should cancel the pester.

The problem is that is doesn't cancel the pester.

Any suggestions? I can send screenshots of the setup if it would be helpful.

Thank you for any support.

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Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:51 am
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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

If you look at your T&P actions you should see the action to cancel a single pester or cancel them all:
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Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:05 pm
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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

I think/thought that was what I was doing.

On the door closed trigger, it calls the cancel action. See attached.
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Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:40 pm
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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

Make sure you're specifying the exact same pester name in the Create Pester and Cancel Pester actions.

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Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:16 pm
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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

First, thank you both for your support, I appreciate the help.

I cut the name from the create pester and pasted to the cancel pester. I believe I'm calling the same thing.

I did also notice something else. In the create pester, when I click the "Has final group", I get an "Error validating field". I uncheck it and save. What are the final groups used for?

Any other suggestions, I'll check any ideas you have as perhaps I can find the problem.

Thank you again.

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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

You don't need a final group, but if you want it to do something different on the last pester then you click that and specify the other action group in the popup (you'll likely need to scroll to see the popup).

You should also make sure that the close trigger is actually firing when the door closes (the event log should show it).

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Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:23 pm
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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

Excellent suggestion to use the log. It saw the closure but didn't trigger the cancel pester. You were right there as well. I felt certain I had the right name because I cut and pasted the name. What I didn't spot was a leading space.

Removed the extra space and it appears to be working fine now.

Thank you very much for the help.

Richard

PS, I recently had a scare and thought I would have to restore my hard drive. I run time machine but don't trust it. Have you ever considered a build in feature to allow a backup log that could be used to restore all the devices, setting, actions, and even the graphics for web pages? I think it would be greatly appreciated to have that piece of mind. I'll also put this in the feature request section I think I saw.

Best wishes

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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

First, I personally rely on Time Machine for all my backups. Sometimes a restore will mess up permissions, but that can be resolved (for Indigo anyway) by just rerunning the installer (which will correct those sorts of things if there's already an install there - it'll leave everything else intact).

But you can back it up any way you like.

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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

There’s a nice little plugin somewhere on the forums that automatically backs up my whole indigo DB and associated files daily.


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Aha here’s the link:

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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

Yeah, I'm hoping Benjamin will eventually get his plugins into the store...

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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

Poke him with a stick until he does it.

Also just noticed that pages’ links are dead!


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Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:48 am
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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

A plugin that backed up all the files would be great. Hopefully, this user will update the pages and move to the store.

Regards,
Richard

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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

My backup routine is that I use backupList+ to send it to my iCloud or Dropbox folders (depends on which machine and what it is backing up, I do this for all my stuff). Gives me a few versions if need them. This way I get every single file in Indigo.

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Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:00 am
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Re: I don't think I'm getting this...

I posted a request for the driver on his Facebook page and suggested he could put a copy in the Plugin store. Perhaps he'll share again.

Thank you all for the support.

I'm glad to be getting the automation set back up and working again.

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