Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

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Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:38 pm
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

I can't quite pinpoint when this happened as my old data was correct using an older version of Indigo and that was an upgrade or two ago. In the middle of all these upgrades, I lost connectivity to the DSB since it was farther away from my z-stick where a wall switch (in between distance wise) was routing for zwave traffic when the switch got fried. During this time, I was not able to get data from the DSB due to it being too far away. Now I was able to replace the switch and can get to the DSB again after a resync. I might see if a downgrade of Indigo will resolve the issue. Any of you guys lost configuration on an Indigo downgrade maybe a couple of .x versions back?

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Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:45 pm
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

Now with Indigo 7 out and the initial request storm is starting to calm down (? 8) ) it might be ok for me to re-request the possibility to get the voltage and amp readings for the Aeon Labs Home Energy Meter 2nd Edition (HEM G2) (DSB028-ZWEU or DSB028-ZWxx where xx = country/region it is made for). Mine is the 3 phase 4 wire version made for EU.

I am able to set the HEM G2 to report voltage and ampere for each phase and I am able to see them in the debug log.

Here is the current (A) report for phase 1:
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2016-12-11 00:07:54.840   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD multiEndPointPacket: 01 12 00 04 00 02 0C 60 0D 02 00 32 02 A1 6C 00 00 09 F4 88
2016-12-11 00:07:54.841   Z-Wave Debug   . .  multiEndPointPacket: node 002, endPoint 2
2016-12-11 00:07:54.842   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD requestMeterLevel: 01 0E 00 04 00 02 08 32 02 A1 6C 00 00 09 F4 FF
2016-12-11 00:07:54.842   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: node 002, endpoint 2, meterType 01, raw value 6C00...
2016-12-11 00:07:54.843   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: 2.548 kVAh (float: 2.548000)


Here is the current (A) report for phase 2:
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2016-12-10 23:37:39.653   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD multiEndPointPacket: 01 12 00 04 00 02 0C 60 0D 02 00 32 02 A1 6C 00 00 0A A0 DF
2016-12-10 23:37:39.654   Z-Wave Debug   . .  multiEndPointPacket: node 002, endPoint 2
2016-12-10 23:37:39.655   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD requestMeterLevel: 01 0E 00 04 00 02 08 32 02 A1 6C 00 00 0A A0 FF
2016-12-10 23:37:39.655   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: node 002, endpoint 2, meterType 01, raw value 6C00...
2016-12-10 23:37:39.656   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: 2.720 kVAh (float: 2.720000)


Here is the current (A) report for phase 3
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2016-12-10 23:37:39.773   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD multiEndPointPacket: 01 12 00 04 00 02 0C 60 0D 03 00 32 02 A1 6C 00 00 0A C8 B6
2016-12-10 23:37:39.775   Z-Wave Debug   . .  multiEndPointPacket: node 002, endPoint 3
2016-12-10 23:37:39.776   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD requestMeterLevel: 01 0E 00 04 00 02 08 32 02 A1 6C 00 00 0A C8 FF
2016-12-10 23:37:39.777   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: node 002, endpoint 3, meterType 01, raw value 6C00...
2016-12-10 23:37:39.777   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: 2.760 kVAh (float: 2.760000)


And these look like they could be the voltage reports:

Phase 1 showing approx 232 volts which is quite correct but Indigo reports it as a energy number in kWh instead of Voltage in Volts:
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2016-12-11 00:07:58.775   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD multiEndPointPacket: 01 12 00 04 00 02 0C 60 0D 01 00 32 02 A1 64 00 03 8A B5 42
2016-12-11 00:07:58.779   Z-Wave Debug   . .  multiEndPointPacket: node 002, endPoint 1
2016-12-11 00:07:58.780   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD requestMeterLevel: 01 0E 00 04 00 02 08 32 02 A1 64 00 03 8A B5 FF
2016-12-11 00:07:58.780   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: node 002, endpoint 1, meterType 01, raw value 6400...
2016-12-11 00:07:58.781   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: 232.117 kWh (float: 232.117000)
2016-12-11 00:07:58.781   Z-Wave   received "Energy Meter - Phase 1" energy total to 232.117 kWh)


Same thing for the voltage reported on phase 2:
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 2016-12-11 00:07:58.860   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD multiEndPointPacket: 01 12 00 04 00 02 0C 60 0D 02 00 32 02 A1 64 00 03 8C 22 D0
2016-12-11 00:07:58.861   Z-Wave Debug   . .  multiEndPointPacket: node 002, endPoint 2
2016-12-11 00:07:58.863   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD requestMeterLevel: 01 0E 00 04 00 02 08 32 02 A1 64 00 03 8C 22 FF
2016-12-11 00:07:58.864   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: node 002, endpoint 2, meterType 01, raw value 6400...
2016-12-11 00:07:58.865   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: 232.482 kWh (float: 232.482000)
2016-12-11 00:07:58.866   Z-Wave   received "Energy Meter - Phase 2" energy total to 232.482 kWh


And here is the voltage for phase 3 being reported in kWh instead of proper value in Volt:
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 2016-12-11 00:07:58.953   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD multiEndPointPacket: 01 12 00 04 00 02 0C 60 0D 03 00 32 02 A1 64 00 03 93 1D F1
2016-12-11 00:07:58.957   Z-Wave Debug   . .  multiEndPointPacket: node 002, endPoint 3
2016-12-11 00:07:58.958   Z-Wave Debug   RCVD requestMeterLevel: 01 0E 00 04 00 02 08 32 02 A1 64 00 03 93 1D FF
2016-12-11 00:07:58.959   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: node 002, endpoint 3, meterType 01, raw value 6400...
2016-12-11 00:07:58.960   Z-Wave Debug   . .  requestMeterLevel: 234.269 kWh (float: 234.269000)
2016-12-11 00:07:58.961   Z-Wave   received "Energy Meter - Phase 3" energy total to 234.269 kWh


It would be great to get these numbers visible in the Indigo GUI for each individual phase as well as the voltage and amp the total group reports.
I will use these numbers to plot the variation of the voltage on my 3 phases that the power company delivers to our house.

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Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:02 pm
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

Still on the request list, but our support inbox would disagree with the idea that the initial request storm has calmed down. :wink:

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Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:41 pm
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z wave energy meter DSB28 does not respond with info;

Hello,

I just got a Z-stick ZW090 and PSB28 to add to my mostly Insteon setup in Indigo. I plan on using the HEM to monitor my solar panels daily power output.

I have the device synced and communicating with Indigo, but cannot get it to reply to requests for data.

I've attached a screen grab of the log window. The first two requests are thru the Device Details button, the third thru a simple schedule status request.

I also got a Z-Wave multi-sensor which is working fine and giving periodic updates on Lux, Temp, & Humidity, so some of this works....

Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong with the HEM?

Thank you,

Craig
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

Try turning on the Z-Wave debug logging checkbox via the Interface->Z-Wave->Configure... menu item, then send the status request a few more times. Instead of taking a screen capture of the Event Log window, just select all the text in the window and copy/paste it into a reply for me (since it will be difficult to fit vertically in an image).

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:23 pm
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the help.

I have gotten my HEM to communicate with Indigo.

I'm not sure yet, but it appears the unit will only respond to update requests when there is actually power flowing thru the clamped wire.

Seems odd, but I have the unit connected to my solar system inverter, and I can update successfully during the day ( when power is being generated ), but no update repsponse
at night ( no power being generated ). I've beed testing at night, so maybe this is the issue.

I'm going to keep learning about this unit, it's pretty cool.

Again, thanks for the reply.

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Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:06 pm
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

Ok, things are working well with the DSB28s.

I have one unit monitoring my solar panels output and another monitoring my overall energy use.

Unfortunately my existing wiring does not give me a convenient spot to read from separately from the solar power inter-tie. I'm not yet sure how the DSB28
measures power going back into the grid. I tried setting the negative value parameter #2 to read negative values, but Indigo gives me this error;

Z-Wave sent "006 - Clamp 5" energy status request
Z-Wave Error received "006 - Clamp 5" power load value out-of-bounds -149.628 W (ignored)
Z-Wave sent "006 - Clamp 6" energy status request
Z-Wave Error received "006 - Clamp 6" power load value out-of-bounds -424.886 W (ignored)

Not really sure what's going on, as I should only get a negative value on the leg that the single phase solar is feeding.....

Anybody using the HEMs in this way and any advice?

Thanks,

Craig
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Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:40 am
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

I have not tested my two DSB28:s with negative reported values for generated energy instead of consumed energy.

Reading the engineering doc for the DSB28 at https://aeotec.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/attachments/6009584508 clearly says that parameter 2 should be set to value 1 which you obiously have done. I guess the error is caused by Indigo not being properly coded to read negative energy values yet?

For those of you struggling with setting params 101-103 to correct values for different reporting values:
Here is a link to an Excel sheet parameter generator: https://aeotec.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/a ... 6039852024
The parameter list as well as the Excel-link above can be found at https://aeotec.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/6000115095-setting-parameter-101-103-for-the-hem-g2-dsb28-

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Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:14 am
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

Is it possible that one of your electrical appliances is causing a cross-feed to the other phase?

Running Indigo 7.1.1 on a 27" iMac (mid-2017), 8G memory, 1T Fusion Drive, OS X 10.13.6
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Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 am
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

I'm going to modify Indigo (7.0.4) to allow negative watt levels. However, this won't solve the problem that only one of your clamps should be reporting negative values. I'm not sure what is causing that (cross-feed like Jeff said?), but the values you see in your Event Log will be the values that Indigo uses for updating the device state values (after 7.0.4 is released).

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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

I have to do a power and energy audit so I can design my off-grid/grid-tie system. I just installed the Aeotec ZW095A energy meter. It seems to work fine and report watts-per-leg.

How are people collecting the data and graphing it? I see graphs here. Should I be stripping the data from the event log and formatting it myself or is Indigo storing the data some other way?

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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

I use my Matplotlib plugin which allows the collection of the data to chart with the CSV Engine device. The number of observations and the time between observations is adjustable. It is not designed to capture every change, but rather based on a time interval.

Another option is to use the SQL plugin in combination with Karl's excellent IndigoPlotD plugin. This combination would allow you to capture every change that the device reports.

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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

In indigoplotd you can
- define device/ state or variable
Then it will create an sql dump for each of these
Then it imports these records and puts them into 3 files
Minutes hours days
Which will have
Date stamp; some flags ;data1;data2..
Filled with
- averages (5 min 1 hour 1 day) or
- min max sum count consumption ......about 10+ options

Then you define plots the use these tuples with up to 100 lines histograms ...
Then every minute the plugin reads these files and creates the plots with either gun plot or matplot

You can use the SQ dump files directly if you like
Names are like id#state.sql in
~/indigo/indigoplotd/SQLite I believe




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Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:38 pm
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

I finally had a chance to upgrade to v 7 and clean up my power monitoring setup. So far so good!

It's great being able to use the negative values from the DSB28, as I can now graph my energy use minus the solar production.

I have however run into a new issue;

Z-Wave Error received "006 - House Use Clamp 5" energy total value out-of-bounds -0.683 kWh (ignored)

The negative total should be correct, as my solar panels are feeding the grid. The current state of "Clamp 5" reads negative, which is also correct.

It appears that either Indigo or my Z-Wave Z-Stick Gen 5 are not happy with the energy total value being negative.

Anybody else see anything like this? I will double check the setup parameters, but have not seen anything that looks out of place so far.

Thanks in advance,

Craig
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Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:48 pm
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Re: z wave energy meter DSB28

Hi Craig,

We fixed the negative kWh problem a while back but haven't yet released a version of Indigo with that change. It should be in the next version.

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