New Mac Mini

[jay (support)]

barely condones, running Indigo on non-Apple hardware.

Oh, we don't condone it either. It's hard enough supporting Apple-supported configs given OS bugs. Impossible to provide support in hackintosh configs.

For what they are, I thought they are very expensive. Apple tradition seems to be bumping the price by £300 or so on everything lately.

A real shame, at the moment I’m wishing indigo ran on windows as I have a bargain HP Z2 Mini G4 sat there with a Xeon processor, 16Gb memory and 512 SSD for less than £500 !

If you could move Indigo to the windows box that wouldn't solve the problem since SecuritySpy doesn't run on Windows, right? If you move to something like Blue Iris for cameras, then you could run that on the HP Z2 and just leave Indigo on the mini you have, right? Plex could probably run either place.

Just trying to do the cost/benefit calculations based on the hardware you have and how to distribute it more.

+1 for Jay's suggestion. This is exactly what I do. I run I7 and Plex on a late 2014 Mac mini (headless), and bought a certified refurbished Dell Optiplex for around $500 for Blue Iris. The Mac mini CPU mostly runs below 2-3% (assuming I'm getting good data back via plugin), though the RAM usage is frequently high at >50%. The Optiplex, with 8 cameras, runs around 36% CPU. You can get a "small form factor" version that is a good bit smaller than a regular PC tower (avoid the really small ones though, there is a lot of talk on IP Cam forums discussing how those are too underpowered for BI).

Admittedly, we aren't huge Plex users-- it would be fairly unheard of for us to have 2 streams running at once, but when we are watching something, Indigo seems to chug along fine.

The Blue Iris plugin is fantastic for Indigo integration, and the BI program is quite inexpensive and not tied to # of cameras.

As I said earlier in the thread, I had limited choice but to upgrade to the new late 2018 Mac mini.

Arrived earlier in the week, and has taken until tonight to unbox. Indigo up and running in less than an hour, transferred over from my MBP.

No issues so far, other than having to select the z-stick but that's hardly an issue....

Any problems, I'll report.

Any questions please shout.


Mat

Mat,

Early even from your initial post. Other than Indigo, what else are you running on the new MacMini? SecuritySpy, RFXCOM? My late 2009 MacMini struggles and could use a vacation, or perhaps retirement.

I used to run indigo and SS on a 2009 but have up and upgraded to a 2012 model that is now working fine under Mojave. Not the quickest but does the job.

As I said earlier in the thread, I had limited choice but to upgrade to the new late 2018 Mac mini.

Arrived earlier in the week, and has taken until tonight to unbox. Indigo up and running in less than an hour, transferred over from my MBP.

No issues so far, other than having to select the z-stick but that's hardly an issue....

Any problems, I'll report.

Any questions please shout.


Mat

Thanks for the heads-up, that's encouraging. Can you comment about power dissipation with just Indigo running in the background? Thanks...

On the I7 3.2 and 8gb ram, with just Indigo running i'm getting the following:

95% system idle CPU
6Gb memory used
Cashed 1.3gb
0.5gb swapped

average energy on indigo server is 42
average energy on indigo 9.3

and on the 120gb ssd, ive used 30gb

Not sure on the actual power consumption as its not being monitored.

Is that what you are after?

cheers

Mat

I suspect that this is going to be somewhat conditional based on what an individual Indigo install is being asked to do. Some plugins may use considerably more resources than others.

Agreed. I've got quiet a few of what i would class the bigger plugins running and around 230 devices, and 200 unifi devices

On the I7 3.2 and 8gb ram, with just Indigo running i'm getting the following:

95% system idle CPU
6Gb memory used
Cashed 1.3gb
0.5gb swapped

average energy on indigo server is 42
average energy on indigo 9.3

and on the 120gb ssd, ive used 30gb

Not sure on the actual power consumption as its not being monitored.

Is that what you are after?

cheers

Mat

Thanks for the information. I was more interested in electrical power, as the Mini runs 24/7. In another forum, a poster mentioned "idle" power was measured at 15 wats, apparently up from 7.5 watts from the previous Mini. I'm assuming "idle" means doing essentially nothing, presumably not sleeping. But have no info about the test circumstances. And of course everybody's situation will be different.

I've got two spare plugin modules, but not sure if they have energy meters - i'll plug them in and take a 48 hour and 7 day reading and see what comes out. Not sure of the accuracy that way. It might even be in a UPS already - will check when i get home.

X-mas came soon this year:)))


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X-mas came soon this year:)))


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Do we know if the new Mac Minis will have the same USB driver problem?

Mine didn't - just had to select the correct serial port with a gen 5. usbmodem 14610