Beginning of next year IKEA will launcher automatic blinds. They will be affordable and controlled by Zigbee.
https://www.channelnews.com.au/ikea-tip ... rt-blinds/
The big companies are using Zigbee while we are stuck with Z-wave
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tazswe wrote:The big companies are using Zigbee while we are stuck with Z-wave
howartp wrote:Who are you calling big companies?
IKEA are a retail outlet selling their own furniture/etc, not a big Smart Automation company like Aeon/Aeotech/Fibaro.
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jay (support) wrote:tazswe wrote:The big companies are using Zigbee while we are stuck with Z-wave
Yeah, I gotta disagree here. Zigbee still has smallish market penetration in the DIY sector compared to Z-Wave.
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tazswe wrote:jay (support) wrote:tazswe wrote:The big companies are using Zigbee while we are stuck with Z-wave
Yeah, I gotta disagree here. Zigbee still has smallish market penetration in the DIY sector compared to Z-Wave.
You mean that the turnover of lightbulbs with zigbee is negligible?
lanbrown wrote:tazswe wrote:
Lightbulbs are an important piece of the home automation market and they have already choosen zigbee.
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Sure they are, but I'd rather control the switch than individual light bulbs. Guess what, Zigbee isn't free and why keep having to buy bulbs with smarts when you buy the switch and it works with all bulbs on the chain and future bulbs as well.
I view smart bulbs as an interim step before PoE is used. Think about it, PoE is now capable of 100 watts; so that is a lot of lighting power when you look at LED bulbs. On a single cable you have control (Ethernet) and then power PoE. With ZigBee you need both 110 (or 220 for other parts of the world) for power and then Zigbee for control.
The only advantage that having a smart bulb brings is that they are quicker to install than a replacement switch. However, you are looking at $10 to $20 per Zigbee bulb. I have about 26 indoor spotlight bulbs over 10 different circuits. $20 x 26 = $520 if I go with bulbs. A Z-Wave switch is around $40; so $40 x 10 = $400. Not a surprise that replacing a switch is cheaper.
If there is one light in a switch, Zigbee is cheaper. If there are multiple lights on a switch; then Z-wave is typically going to be cheaper.
I personally have no interest in buying smart bulbs; I'd rather control the switch, not the bulb.
jay (support) wrote:tazswe wrote:jay (support) wrote:tazswe wrote:The big companies are using Zigbee while we are stuck with Z-wave
Yeah, I gotta disagree here. Zigbee still has smallish market penetration in the DIY sector compared to Z-Wave.
You mean that the turnover of lightbulbs with zigbee is negligible?
Bulbs with smarts in them have significantly smaller market penetration than switches controlling dumb bulbs. And in the much larger switch/dumb bulb market Zigbee is still playing catchup. Not that some day it won't catch up (we actually hope it does because the APIs are better) but that's not where the market is now, and frankly Zigbee isn't making a lot of progress in that direction especially in the DIY market.
tazswe wrote:Interesting because I would say that market for Philips Hue and IKEA bulbs are more likely 100 than 10 times bigger than the z-wave switch market in Scandinavia.
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