What causes something like this?

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Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:39 am
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Re: What causes something like this?

I'll add a data point to the discussion about z-wave devices having their communications disabled. I originally had a schedule set to optimize my ~40 z-wave devices about once a day. No particular reason for doing that. On advice of another forum member I disabled that schedule. Since then (about a week ago), no further issues.

Running Indigo 2023.2 on a 24" iMac M1), OS X 14.4
Jeff

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Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:51 pm
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Re: What causes something like this?

It happened again.
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2018-07-24 17:35:24.861   Z-Wave   received "2. OG Temperatur" sensor update to 28.2 °C
2018-07-24 17:41:28.242   Z-Wave   received "Helligkeit Küche" sensor update to 10 lux
2018-07-24 17:43:12.777   Z-Wave   received "Helligkeit 1.OG" sensor update to 5 lux
2018-07-24 17:43:12.950   Z-Wave   received "1. OG Temperatur" sensor update to 26.4 °C
2018-07-24 17:43:15.226   Z-Wave   received "Helligkeit 2.OG" sensor update to 0 lux
2018-07-24 17:45:03.570   Z-Wave   received "Sirene Temperature" sensor update to 49.6 °C
2018-07-24 17:45:18.498   Z-Wave   received "Fenster W. re. Temperature" sensor update to 29.81 °C
2018-07-24 17:45:24.040   Z-Wave   received "2. OG Temperatur" sensor update to 28.2 °C
2018-07-24 17:45:24.454   WebServer   Indigo Touch client connected from 192.168.1.84
2018-07-24 17:46:17.542   EPS - Control Page Keypad Error   Incorrect code of 9969 entered on Keypad, attempt 1
2018-07-24 17:46:17.553   Action Group   Sound ComputerInputFailed
2018-07-24 17:46:21.535   EPS - Control Page Keypad Error   Incorrect code of 9969 entered on Keypad, attempt 2
2018-07-24 17:46:21.551   Action Group   Sound ComputerInputFailed
2018-07-24 17:48:14.470   Schedule   SireneCheck
2018-07-24 17:48:16.610   EPS - Control Page Keypad Error   Incorrect code of 9969 entered on Keypad, attempt 1
2018-07-24 17:48:16.623   Action Group   Sound ComputerInputFailed
2018-07-24 17:48:31.064   Z-Wave Error   send setRelayValue failed after 9 attempts
2018-07-24 17:48:31.065   Z-Wave Error   restarting serial connection in 5.0 seconds
2018-07-24 17:48:34.469   Interface Failure   lost connection with interface
2018-07-24 17:49:22.140   Z-Wave Error   send getVersion failed after 9 attempts
2018-07-24 17:49:22.142   Z-Wave Error   restarting serial connection in 5.0 seconds
2018-07-24 17:49:25.466   Interface Failure   lost connection with interface
2018-07-24 17:50:13.208   Z-Wave Error   send getVersion failed after 9 attempts
2018-07-24 17:50:13.210   Z-Wave Error   restarting serial connection in 5.0 seconds
2018-07-24 17:50:16.463   Interface Failure   lost connection with interface
2018-07-24 17:51:04.273   Z-Wave Error   send getVersion failed after 9 attempts
2018-07-24 17:51:04.274   Z-Wave Error   restarting serial connection in 5.0 seconds
2018-07-24 17:51:07.458   Interface Failure   lost connection with interface
2018-07-24 17:51:55.332   Z-Wave Error   send getVersion failed after 9 attempts
2018-07-24 17:51:55.333   Z-Wave Error   restarting serial connection in 5.0 seconds
2018-07-24 17:51:58.458   Interface Failure   lost connection with interface
2018-07-24 17:52:25.691   Z-Wave   connected to Z-Wave 3.95 static controller interface on /dev/cu.usbmodem1d1341 (firmware 1.00)
2018-07-24 17:52:25.858   Z-Wave   found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 009 - Dimmable Power Switch
2018-07-24 17:52:25.864   Z-Wave Error   module 010 included in controller no longer matches device "Deckenlampe" type (controller module type: zwRelayType/zwRelayType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwDimmerType (4, 17, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:25.878   Z-Wave Error   module 012 included in controller no longer matches device "Arbeitsplatte" type (controller module type: zwDimmerType/zwDimmerType (4, 17, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:25.908   Z-Wave Error   module 039 included in controller no longer matches device "Rolladen Dach rechts" type (controller module type: zwRelayType/zwRelayType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwDimmerType (4, 17, 3))
2018-07-24 17:52:25.920   Z-Wave   found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 048 - Relay Power Switch
2018-07-24 17:52:25.932   Z-Wave Error   module 054 included in controller no longer matches device "Stehlampe Schlafzimmer" type (controller module type: zwCustomType/zwCustomType (1, 1, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:25.948   Z-Wave Error   module 056 included in controller no longer matches device "056 - Relay Switch" type (controller module type: zwRelayType/zwRelayType (4, 17, 3), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.011   Z-Wave Error   module 070 included in controller no longer matches device "Terrassentür" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.035   Z-Wave   found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 073 - Relay Power Switch
2018-07-24 17:52:26.042   Z-Wave Error   module 074 included in controller no longer matches device "Ventilator" type (controller module type: zwRelayType/zwRelayType (4, 32, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.062   Z-Wave Error   module 076 included in controller no longer matches device "Tischlampe" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.077   Z-Wave Error   module 077 included in controller no longer matches device "Küchenfenster" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.109   Z-Wave Error   module 079 included in controller no longer matches device "Bewegungsmelder Küche" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.140   Z-Wave Error   module 080 included in controller no longer matches device "Boxenlampen" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 0))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.156   Z-Wave Error   module 082 included in controller no longer matches device "Dachfenster links" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.188   Z-Wave Error   module 084 included in controller no longer matches device "Bewegungsmelder 2. OG" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 0), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.216   Z-Wave   found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 085 - Binary Sensor (routing)
2018-07-24 17:52:26.223   Z-Wave Error   module 086 included in controller no longer matches device "Deckenlampe Dimmer" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1), indigo device type: zwDimmerType (4, 17, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.256   Z-Wave Error   module 097 included in controller no longer matches device "Schreibtischlampe" type (controller module type: zwDimmerType/zwDimmerType (4, 17, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 0))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.289   Z-Wave Error   module 102 included in controller no longer matches device "Fenster Ruth " type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 0), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.313   Z-Wave Error   module 103 included in controller no longer matches device "Wassersensor" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 161, 2))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.352   Z-Wave Error   module 107 included in controller no longer matches device "107 - Relay Power Switch" type (controller module type: zwCustomType/zwCustomType (4, 161, 2), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.362   Z-Wave   found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 108 - Binary Sensor (routing)
2018-07-24 17:52:26.367   Z-Wave Error   module 113 included in controller no longer matches device "Weihnachtsbaum alt" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.391   Z-Wave Error   module 122 included in controller no longer matches device "Arbeitsplatte links" type (controller module type: zwRelayType/zwRelayType (1, 1, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.412   Z-Wave Error   module 124 included in controller no longer matches device "Sirene" type (controller module type: zwRelayType/zwRelayType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 5))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.435   Z-Wave Error   module 127 included in controller no longer matches device "Keyfob (FGKF601)" type (controller module type: zwRelayType/zwRelayType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwCustomType (4, 24, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.450   Z-Wave Error   module 130 included in controller no longer matches device "Bewegungsmelder Gästeklo" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.475   Z-Wave Error   module 131 included in controller no longer matches device "Außenlampe Eingang" type (controller module type: zwRelayType/zwRelayType (4, 16, 5), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.491   Z-Wave   found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 132 - Siren
2018-07-24 17:52:26.497   Z-Wave Error   module 133 included in controller no longer matches device "133 - Wall Plug Relay (FGWP102)" type (controller module type: zwCustomType/zwCustomType (4, 24, 1), indigo device type: zwRelayType (4, 16, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.509   Z-Wave   found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 134 - Binary Sensor (routing)
2018-07-24 17:52:26.515   Z-Wave Error   module 135 included in controller no longer matches device "Eingangstür" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.544   Z-Wave Error   module 137 included in controller no longer matches device "Fenstersensor" type (controller module type: zwOnOffSensorType/zwOnOffSensorType (4, 16, 1), indigo device type: zwOnOffSensorType (4, 32, 1))
2018-07-24 17:52:26.568   Z-Wave Error   to re-enable the devices with new z-wave modules, press the "Define and Sync..." button in the device dialog
2018-07-24 17:52:26.588   Z-Wave Error   could not find module/node for action
2018-07-24 17:53:12.417   Z-Wave   received "Helligkeit 1.OG" sensor update to 5 lux
2018-07-24 17:53:12.588   Z-Wave   received "1. OG Temperatur" sensor update to 26.4 °C
2018-07-24 17:53:45.002   Z-Wave   received "104 - Fenster Studio" status update battery level 100%
2018-07-24 17:54:11.515   Z-Wave   received "101 - Fenster W. li." status update battery level 83%
2018-07-24 17:55:33.801   Z-Wave   received "094 - Dachfenster rechts" status update battery level 60%
2018-07-24 17:58:29.075   Z-Wave   received "099 - Kellerfenster Süd" status update battery level 98%
2018-07-24 18:00:00.434   Schedule   Sonnenschutz aus


I am sorry, I am using this system for nearly 4 years now. Without any problems on the zwave side at all.
And after updating to 7.1.1 it fails twice in one week? I don#t think this is conincidence.
I doubt that the "optimize network" that I used before the first incident has any effect after more than a week.

Matt, I really think, you are investigateing in the wrong direction.
The only device that I changed in the last weeks, was the fibaro Window sensor because of which I had to upgarde to 7.1.1

I really hope there will be a solution soon, because as it is now, I have absolutely now confidence in my HA system any more.
Sigh..

Wilhelm

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Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:59 pm
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Re: What causes something like this?

It isn't 7.1.1 causing the problem. You are more than welcome to download Indigo 7.1.0 if you'd like.

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Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:05 pm
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Re: What causes something like this?

What I forgot:
To recover from this, I stopped the server.
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24.07.2018 21:37:23
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   Loading database "/Library/Application Support/Perceptive Automation/Indigo 7/Databases/Hutzelhaus.indiDb"
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   Adapters Error                  Error in plugin execution ServerReplacedElem:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "plugin.py", line 130, in deviceUpdated
  File "/Library/Application Support/Perceptive Automation/Indigo 7/Plugins/Adapters.indigoPlugin/Contents/Server Plugin/sensor_adapter.py", line 37, in go
KeyError: key outside_value not found in dict

   Adapters Error                  Error in plugin execution ServerReplacedElem:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "plugin.py", line 130, in deviceUpdated
  File "/Library/Application Support/Perceptive Automation/Indigo 7/Plugins/Adapters.indigoPlugin/Contents/Server Plugin/sensor_adapter.py", line 37, in go
KeyError: key outside_value not found in dict

   Adapters Error                  Error in plugin execution ServerReplacedElem:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "plugin.py", line 130, in deviceUpdated
  File "/Library/Application Support/Perceptive Automation/Indigo 7/Plugins/Adapters.indigoPlugin/Contents/Server Plugin/sensor_adapter.py", line 37, in go
KeyError: key outside_value not found in dict

   Started interface "Z-Wave 2.0.111"
   Adapters Error                  Error in plugin execution ServerReplacedElem:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "plugin.py", line 130, in deviceUpdated
  File "/Library/Application Support/Perceptive Automation/Indigo 7/Plugins/Adapters.indigoPlugin/Contents/Server Plugin/sensor_adapter.py", line 37, in go
KeyError: key outside_value not found in dict

   Adapters Error                  Error in plugin execution ServerReplacedElem:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "plugin.py", line 130, in deviceUpdated
  File "/Library/Application Support/Perceptive Automation/Indigo 7/Plugins/Adapters.indigoPlugin/Contents/Server Plugin/sensor_adapter.py", line 37, in go
KeyError: key outside_value not found in dict

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   Started plugin "ZEAL 0.3.7"
   Z-Wave                          connected to Z-Wave 3.95 static controller interface on /dev/cu.usbmodem1d1341 (firmware 1.00)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 009 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 010 - Dimmable Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 012 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 039 - Multiposition Motor Control
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 048 - Portable Remote Controller
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 054 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 056 - Relay Power Switch
   WebServer client connected
   WebServer                       started on port 8176 -- digest authentication enabled
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 070 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 073 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 074 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 076 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 077 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 079 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 080 - Relay Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 082 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 084 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 085 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 086 - Dimmable Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 097 - Relay Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 102 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 103 - Alarm Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 107 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 108 - Portable Remote Controller
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 113 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 122 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 124 - Siren
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 127 - Basic Wall Controller
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 130 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 131 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 133 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 135 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 137 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   INDIGOplotD                     ..../data/consumedDuringPeriod  empty, resetting consumption data to 0
   INDIGOplotD                      read file /Users/wilhelm/Documents/INDIGOplotD/data/minute.dat lines: 2304  ok
   INDIGOplotD                      read file /Users/wilhelm/Documents/INDIGOplotD/data/hour.dat lines: 912  ok
   INDIGOplotD                      read file /Users/wilhelm/Documents/INDIGOplotD/data/day.dat lines: 390  ok
   INDIGOplotD                     command: reLoad data from SQL for last 2 days started
   INDIGOplotD                      wait 40 secs for SQL logger to finish start up -- before retrieving SQL data
   Z-Wave                          connected to Z-Wave 3.95 static controller interface on /dev/cu.usbmodem1d1341 (firmware 1.00)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 009 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 010 - Dimmable Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 012 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 039 - Multiposition Motor Control
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 048 - Portable Remote Controller
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 054 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 056 - Relay Power Switch
   WebServer client connected
   WebServer                       started on port 8176 -- digest authentication enabled
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 070 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 073 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 074 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 076 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 077 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 079 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 080 - Relay Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 082 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 084 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 085 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 086 - Dimmable Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 097 - Relay Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 102 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 103 - Alarm Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 107 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 108 - Portable Remote Controller
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 113 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 122 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 124 - Siren
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 127 - Basic Wall Controller
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 130 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 131 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 133 - Relay Power Switch
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 135 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   Z-Wave                          found module included in controller with no matching device (missing or disabled): 137 - Binary Sensor (routing)
   INDIGOplotD                     ..../data/consumedDuringPeriod  empty, resetting consumption data to 0
   INDIGOplotD                      read file /Users/wilhelm/Documents/INDIGOplotD/data/minute.dat lines: 2304  ok
   INDIGOplotD                      read file /Users/wilhelm/Documents/INDIGOplotD/data/hour.dat lines: 912  ok
   INDIGOplotD                      read file /Users/wilhelm/Documents/INDIGOplotD/data/day.dat lines: 390  ok
   INDIGOplotD                     command: reLoad data from SQL for last 2 days started
   INDIGOplotD                      wait 40 secs for SQL logger to finish start up -- before retrieving SQL data

24.07.2018 21:37:31
   Trigger                         InitVariables
   Trigger                         wx010-1 on
   Trigger                         wx030-3 standby
   Trigger                         wx030-4 standby
   Trigger                         RX-A2050 on
   Trigger                         wx010-2 standby
   Trigger                         wx030-1 standby
   Z-Wave                          received "Bewegungsmelder 1.OG" status update is on
   Z-Wave                          received "Treppenhaus OG" status update is on (from associate)

24.07.2018 21:38:09
   INDIGOplotD                     sql commands launched  2018-07-24 21:38:09.167391  waiting for SQL tasks to end to read data into INDIGOplotD pid=41921
   INDIGOplotD                     Reading SQL files,filtering,convting Time Stamp   Device----- State name-------------------------------  records read/imported/  LastID/  F size--Reject: ValueRng/  Number/ TimeStp/   2Days/   col#
   INDIGOplotD                     Converted                         0:00:00.214534 070 - Terrassentür Temperatur -sensorValue-average             18796/    6635/   19988/  494672--rejects:       0/       0/       0/   12161/     1
   INDIGOplotD                     Converted                         0:00:00.324034 073 - Klo - Temperatur-sensorValue-average                      9905/    3252/   10530/  255599--rejects:       0/       0/       0/    6653/     2
   INDIGOplotD                     Converted                         0:00:00.402207 077 - Küchenfenster Temperatur-sensorValue-average              4779/    1734/    5139/  122558--rejects:       0/       0/       0/    3045/     3
   INDIGOplotD                     Converted                         0:00:00.698437 082 - Dachfenster links Temperatur-sensorValue-average         25595/    9393/   27408/  677340--rejects:       0/       0/       0/   16202/     4
   INDIGOplotD                     Converted                         0:00:00.738095 079 - Temperatur-sensorValue-average                            1754/     604/    1871/   42799--rejects:       0/       0/       0/    1150/     5
   INDIGOplotD                     Converted                         0:00:00.763975 066 - Temperature-sensorValue-average                            336/     148/     339/    8259--rejects:       0/       0/       0/     188/     6
   INDIGOplotD                     SQL import             2018-07-24 21:38:12.975724 ... finished, total number of records imported:               21766
   INDIGOplotD                     initializing  ...2
   INDIGOplotD                     initialized
   Z-Wave                          received "Dachfenster rechts Temperatur" sensor update to 30.81 °C

24.07.2018 21:39:32
   Z-Wave                          received "Bewegungsmelder 1.OG" status update is off
   Z-Wave                          received "Treppenhaus OG" status update is off (from associate)

24.07.2018 21:39:56
   SQL Logger                      updating all variable tables
   SQL Logger                      update complete

24.07.2018 21:41:15
   Z-Wave                          received "Helligkeit Küche" sensor update to 0 lux

24.07.2018 21:41:39
   Z-Wave                          received "Fenster W. li. Temperatur" sensor update to 26.93 °C

and this is the log of the restart.

After that, I re-enabled all disabled devices by hand and the system is running again.

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Re: What causes something like this?

I'm not extremely knowledgeable on the system logs, but I wonder if someone knows if there is a way to filter the messages down to try and view USB errors? Maybe if it is locking up there is some clue in there?

Just a musing in case someone can jump in; I can usually find what I am looking for in the logs, but I muddle through it and not enough to be able to suggest / tell someone how to look for it.

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Re: What causes something like this?

Umtauscher wrote:
I am sorry, I am using this system for nearly 4 years now. Without any problems on the zwave side at all.
And after updating to 7.1.1 it fails twice in one week? I don#t think this is conincidence.


Correlation is not causation. Just because the problem started about the time you went to 7.1.1 doesn't mean that 7.1.1 caused it. It could be a hardware failure. Coincidences do happen.

Downgrade to 7.1.0 for a while and see if the problem comes up again.

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Re: What causes something like this?

That might look that way. but theses are software generated keypad errors because I mistyped the the pin intentioally. i did that many times before to test something.

What is interresting is that Indigo disables all the devices and when I restart the server, they still are listed as non functional. After I enable them by hand and do a restart, all errors are gone.
This at least seems odd to me, because I didn't resync them and they all work again right away.

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Re: What causes something like this?

FlyingDiver wrote:
Umtauscher wrote:
D owngrade to 7.1.0 for a while and see if the problem comes up again.

Yes that is exactly what I am planning to do.
What would be the best way to do it? I have a copy of the installation directory before the upgrade

Thanks for any help you could provide.

wilhelm

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Re: What causes something like this?

Umtauscher wrote:
What is interresting is that Indigo disables all the devices and when I restart the server, they still are listed as non functional. After I enable them by hand and do a restart, all errors are gone.
This at least seems odd to me, because I didn't resync them and they all work again right away.

This is discussed on that other forum thread. As we've said multiple times we are looking at making Indigo more robust in handling the problem. What happens is the Z-Wave controller gets in a bad state, it then tells Indigo that all of modules included in the controller are very different than what they are, Indigo disables all of its devices because they no longer match (it is the same thing that would happen if you plugged in a Z-Wave Controller from a neighbor's house that had totally different devices included in it). We are looking into making Indigo more robust in handling the bad data, either by automatically re-enabling the devices at some point or by not immediately disabling the devices but somehow trying to further detect if the Z-Wave is going to recover. It is very much the traditional garbage-in (from Z-Wave Controller), garbage-out problem. We'll try to make Indigo better at detecting garbage, but it isn't a simple problem.

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Re: What causes something like this?

Thanks, I understand that.
Anyways, could you please tell me what is the fatest way to reactivate my older Indigo installation?
TIA
Wilhelm

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Re: What causes something like this?

Umtauscher wrote:
Anyways, could you please tell me what is the fatest way to reactivate my older Indigo installation?

See Clive's post earlier in the first page of this very thread. It includes a link to the other forum thread which includes code that will re-enable all of your devices.

Edit: Or are you talking about re-installing the older version of Indigo? Have you downloaded and run the installer? What problem(s) are you having?

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Re: What causes something like this?

more of reaktivating my backup that I took before updating to 7.1.1
That was 7.0.3 with a beta of your zwave plugin from June 2017.
I have not run into problems yet.
Would it be enough to copy the indigo directory to the old location?
Perhaps running the 7.0 installer over it again?

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Re: What causes something like this?

Yes, I would first make a backup of the Indigo folder (in case something goes wrong), then copy over the old backup folder you have, and finally re-run the Indigo 7.0.3 installer.

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Re: What causes something like this?

Just an observation but everyone that has mentioned this problem are in the EU/UK (don't mention Brexit!!!) and that means we use 868.4MHz were the US use 908.4MHz and Australia/NZ use 921.4MHz.

Could it be that the European 4G phone masts, which are multiplying rapidly, are just swamping the Z- Wave frequency with noise that when it gets busy (like optimising) the Z Stick just gets so much garbage it gives up. A bit like trying to talk to someone at a party when the Stereo is full blast.

I think that was my problem and by adding a few more " repeaters" it reduced the distance between modules and allowed the signal to get through and I have not had the problem since (famous last words!)

Searching I found
Any low power radio devices operating in the range 862 MHz to 870 MHz are most likely to be affected by interference from the portable devices using the 800 MHz LTE system since they will be transmitting in the upper part of the 790 MHz to 862 MHz band, i.e. the part of the band which is closest to the frequencies used by Low Power Radio Devices.


Full text on this is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/800_MHz_frequency_band

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