Anyone Using Zooz Universal Relay (ZEN17)?

How do you get to these parameters?
Thanks
Joe

Parameters (Advanced Settings) You can usually google this information on any new zwave device to see how it can be tweaked.

For the Zen17 --> https://www.support.getzooz.com/kb/article/698-zen17-universal-relay-advanced-settings/

Top Menu Bar: Interfaces --> Z-Wave --> Modify Configuration Parameter...

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I usually will click the "Read Current Value" first, then put in what I want it to be, then "Save New Value". I usuall also have the log running on the screen to make sure the information is going through and no communication errors or anything.

Somewhere it may have been posted that after modifying certain perameters on the device, you may have to exclude the device, then re-include it. I havn't run into that myself yet, but like I mentioned above, I'm not 100% sure my zen17 is setup correctly. Since it is hooked up to my alarm panel, it will probably be an all day thing to make adjustments without setting off the house alarm. I loose serious wife points when I too much noise.

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Thank you Bill (and others in this thread),

I've got my configuration parameters set per the earlier comment from Jeff,

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p2 => 10 (set S1 to on/off report)
p3 => 10 (set S2 to on/off report)
p10 => 0 (relay 1 trigger disabled)
p11 => 0 (relay 2 trigger disabled)

Here's how that looks (attachment).

However it still doesn't seem to read the contact closures correctly. I can trigger the garage opening by turning on Relay 1, however the dry contacts don't seem to do the right thing yet.

Here are the pertinent areas of the log.
Garage currently open:

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  Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 0D 00 13 08 06 60 0D 01 01 25 02 25 F2 72 (True)
   Z-Wave                          sent "008 - Relay 1" status request
   Z-Wave                          received "008 - Relay 1" status update is off
   Trigger                         ****DRY CONTACT OPEN!
   Action Collection               GARAGE OPEN!
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 0B 00 04 00 08 05 25 03 00 00 00 FF
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 0F 00 04 00 08 09 60 0D 01 01 25 03 00 00 00 BD
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 60v4
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command not yet decoded: 60 0D v4

Sending the signal to close

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   Mar 15, 2024 at 7:16:10 AM
      Z-Wave                          sent "008 - Relay 1" on
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 0E 00 13 08 07 60 0D 01 01 25 01 FF 25 F3 8D (True)


Garage door closing:

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      Z-Wave                          received "008 - All Relays" status update is on
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 0B 00 04 00 08 05 25 03 FF FF 00 C0
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 25v1 (SWITCH_BINARY_REPORT)
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Value: 0xFF, see table:
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x00: Off
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x01 - 0x63: 1-100%
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x64 - 0xFD: Reserved
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0xFE: Unknown
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0xFF: On
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 0B 00 04 00 08 05 25 03 FF FF 00 C0
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 25v1 (SWITCH_BINARY_REPORT)
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Value: 0xFF, see table:
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x00: Off
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x01 - 0x63: 1-100%
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x64 - 0xFD: Reserved
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0xFE: Unknown
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0xFF: On
      Trigger                         ****DRY CONTACT CLOSED!
      Action Collection               GARAGE CLOSED!
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 0B 00 04 00 08 05 25 03 FF FF 00 FF
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 0F 00 04 00 08 09 60 0D 01 00 25 03 FF FF 00 BC
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 60v4
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command not yet decoded: 60 0D v4
      Z-Wave                          received "008 - All Relays" status update is off
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 0B 00 04 00 08 05 25 03 00 00 00 C0
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 25v1 (SWITCH_BINARY_REPORT)
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Value: 0x00, see table:
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x00: Off
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x01 - 0x63: 1-100%
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0x64 - 0xFD: Reserved
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0xFE: Unknown
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug               0xFF: On
      Z-Wave                          received "008 - Relay 1" status update is off


Garage door is closed now:

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      Trigger                         ****DRY CONTACT OPEN!
      Action Collection               GARAGE OPEN!
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 0B 00 04 00 08 05 25 03 00 00 00 FF
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 0F 00 04 00 08 09 60 0D 01 00 25 03 00 00 00 BC
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 60v4
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command not yet decoded: 60 0D v4
      Z-Wave                          received "008 - Relay 1" status update is off
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 11 00 04 00 08 0B 71 05 00 00 00 FF 00 17 00 00 00 FF
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 15 00 04 00 08 0F 60 0D 01 00 71 05 00 00 00 FF 00 17 00 00 00 0A
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 60v4
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command not yet decoded: 60 0D v4
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 0A 00 04 00 08 04 30 03 00 0A FF
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 0E 00 04 00 08 08 60 0D 01 00 30 03 00 0A A1
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 60v4
      Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command not yet decoded: 60 0D v4


Sending status request of Relay 1 (Garage door still closed):

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   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 0D 00 13 08 06 60 0D 01 01 25 02 25 F2 72 (True)
   Z-Wave                          sent "008 - Relay 1" status request
   Trigger                         ****DRY CONTACT OPEN!
   Action Collection               GARAGE OPEN!
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8 Endpoint 1): 01 0B 00 04 00 08 05 25 03 00 00 00 FF
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 8): 01 0F 00 04 00 08 09 60 0D 01 01 25 03 00 00 00 BD
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command class: 60v4
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Command not yet decoded: 60 0D v4


Really confused here. I thought my parameters would disassociate the dry contacts from the relay but maybe they don't. Is it possible to get the status of the dry contact accurately? Any help appreciated.
Thanks,

Joe

Hmm no bites on my response above . Let me ask differently - is anyone using a ZEN17 successfully as a garage door opener that also senses the state of the garage door(s)?

Thanks
Joe

Hmm no bites on my response above .

Curious if you are willing to try an experiment. Now that you have changed the paremeters of the device to seperate the inputs from the outputs.... If you exclude the device from indigo, then re-include it, will indigo now recognize the inputs in addition to the relays?

I'm assuming that (like others) that when you installed the zwave device out of the box, it installed as 3 devices (all relays, relay 1, relay 2). I'm curious and hoping that after changing the perameter settings and then re-adding to indigo, it will be added as 5 devices (fingers crossed).

Curious if you are willing to try an experiment. Now that you have changed the paremeters of the device to seperate the inputs from the outputs.... If you exclude the device from indigo, then re-include it, will indigo now recognize the inputs in addition to the relays?

I'm assuming that (like others) that when you installed the zwave device out of the box, it installed as 3 devices (all relays, relay 1, relay 2). I'm curious and hoping that after changing the perameter settings and then re-adding to indigo, it will be added as 5 devices (fingers crossed).

Oh that's interesting. I'm not near it at the moment but will try it tomorrow. Are you saying you have 2 more devices in your Indigo (5 total) for the unit?

Thanks
Joe

Oh that's interesting. I'm not near it at the moment but will try it tomorrow. Are you saying you have 2 more devices in your Indigo (5 total) for the unit?

Thanks
Joe

No, but I have a different device that (out of the box) has seperated inputs from outputs... the MIMO2. It installs with 3 relays (Relay 1, Relay 2 and All Relays, plus Input 1, Input 2) 5 devices total. (7, if you include the digital inputs.... but they don't work ) The downside to the MIMO2, is only the analog input works... so I have to do some weird math to figure out what numarical range = open, which = closed.... a couple of triggers to then populate virtual devices to represent the open/close state. Messy, but working.

Anyway, earlier in this thread, Matt made a couple comments that got me thinking....
"I noticed the instructions now say to exclude and re-include after changing parameters that control this"

and

" Z-Wave devices that can dynamically (based on config params) change their behavior or the number or type of devices that need to be created are difficult and problematic to support since they require custom coding and not a simpler static device definition. We need to make some deeper plumbing changes so that Indigo can more easily handle these types of devices."

So, putting it all together.... when you chage the parameters which change the behavior of the device, Indigo is in the dark and can't make a change after the fact. So if you exclude then re-include, maybe Indigo will pick up the extra sub/child devices.