Steinel IS 140-2 Outdoor motion sensor

Hi!

Bought this Steinel IS 140-2 outdoor motion sensor (https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B075V4YL7F/) since Steinel makes solid devices and needed new outdoor motion sensor for my garage.

Device syncs fine and shows up as three devices: Notification Sensor, Multilevel Sensor and Relay switch

It responds to status requests and relay switch reacts to Indigo on/off but thats about it. I see some other Steinel Z-wave devices are supported so there might be a chance to get this supported easily?

EDIT: found the manual online which contains command classes(page 25): https://www.steinel.de/out/media/operationmanual/47430_110059097_BDAL%20IS%20140-2%20SMARTHOME%205%20SPR%20V2.pdf

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Indigo Z-Wave Version: 7.4.0
Node ID: 119
Model: Notification Sensor
Model ID: 00021A72
Manufacturer: Steinel
Manufacturer ID: 0271
Protocol Version: 4.38
Application Version: 0.48
Model Definition Version: 0
Library Type: 3
Class Name: Notification Sensor
Class Hierarchy: 04 : 07 : 01
Command Class Base: 00
Command Versions: 20v1 85v1 86v1 71v1 8Ev1 59v1 5Av1 5Ev1 60v4 25v1 27v1 70v1 31v4 72v1 73v1 77v1 7Av1
Encryption Status: Not Supported
Multi-Endpoint Types: 1:(07 : 01), 2:(21 : 01), 3:(10 : 01)
Multi-Endpoint Classes: 1:[5E 85 8E 59 71], 2:[5E 31 85 8E 59], 3:[5E 85 8E 59 25 27 22]
Multi-Instance Counts: - none -
Features: routing, beaming
Neighbors: 3, 7, 8, 10, 13, 14, 18, 19, 22, 23, 52, 53, 54, 56, 61, 62, 64, 75
Associations: 1:[1] 2:[] 3:[] 4:[]
Config Values: - none -

[matt (support)]

Does this one directly wire to a load/light or is it just a motion sensor? I thought it was the latter, but I'm confused by the fact that it has an on/off relay endpoint. What is the purpose of that if there is no load controlled by it?

It does have one wire for load so it has L (live), N (neutral) & L’ (load). Relay switch seems to control the load as I click it on Indigo UI.

Status request gets the state right when load is on but it does not update without status request.

[matt (support)]

Thanks, we'll look into adding it.

[matt (support)]

Indigo 7.4.1 is now available and includes support for the Steinel Outdoor Motion Sensor (IS 140-2).

Thanks for adding this. Gave it test run - close but no cigar yet...

Device is showing up in Indigo as IS 140-2 motion sensor as it should be but main device is named "Floodlight" and secondary devices as "Motion Sensor" and Luminance. As this is simple motion detector with relay output, "Floodlight" should be something like "Relay Output" etc.

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As I tested the motion sensor, no change in UI. Device states stayed the same as in the second picture but I had Watcher debug on and got some events tracked. Hope this helps.

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Motion sensor ON:
Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 10 00 04 00 77 0A 71 05 00 00 00 FF 07 00 01 08 13
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 25 03 00 A0

Motion sensor OFF:
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0F 00 04 00 77 09 71 05 00 00 00 FF 07 08 00 0E
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 25 03 FF 5F

Unrecognized event;
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 07 D0 6C

Status requests for every device:
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119 Endpoint 1): 01 0D 00 13 77 06 60 0D 01 01 71 04 25 FA 57 (True)
   Z-Wave                          sent "Autotallin etukulman motion sensor" status request
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119 Endpoint 2): 01 0D 00 13 77 06 60 0D 01 02 31 04 25 FB 15 (True)
   Z-Wave                          sent "Autotallin etukulman luminance" status request

   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119 Endpoint 3): 01 0D 00 13 77 06 60 0D 01 03 25 02 25 FC 01 (True)
   Z-Wave                          sent "Autotallin etukulman floodlight" status request
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119 Endpoint 3): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 25 03 00 FF
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0D 00 04 00 77 07 60 0D 03 01 25 03 00 CF



Additional debugging - could this be luminance value since this was updating every minute during last hour:

from 8. Feb 2020 at 16.12.16 to 8. Feb 2020 at 17.06.16

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01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 F9 40
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 DD 64
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 B9 00
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 90 29
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 71 C8
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 4D F4
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 3B 82
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 22 9B
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 02 0B B2
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 F6 4C
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 DC 66
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 C3 79
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 B1 0B
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 97 2D
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 7B C1
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 64 DE
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 4F F5
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 40 FA
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 2C 96
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 2C 96
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 17 AD
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 01 0A B0
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 FD 46
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 E9 52
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 D9 62
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 CF 74
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 C0 7B
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 B0 0B
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 A4 1F
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 99 22
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 8D 36
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 82 39
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 7B C0
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 6E D5
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 66 DD
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 62 D9
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 5A E1
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 52 E9
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 4B F0

01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 44 FF
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 3E 85
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 38 83
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 32 89
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 2E 95
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 28 93
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 24 9F
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 20 9B
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 1C A7
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 18 A3
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 15 AE
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 12 A9
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 11 AA
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 0E B5
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 0D B6
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 0D B6
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 0B B0
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 0B B0
01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 03 0A 00 0A B1


[matt (support)]

Thanks – I'll investigate this one further...

[matt (support)]

Try using the Interfaces->Z-Wave->Manage Associations... menu item to remove the association from that module (Floodlight) back to the Z-Wave controller, then re-sync the device and see if it works. Copy/paste the Event Log results of all of that into a reply for me.

Here you go, got bad sync during the process (sensor is located on outer edge of my network):

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10. Feb 2020 at 6.19.19
   Z-Wave                          removed association of "001 - Indigo Z-Wave Interface" from "Autotallin etukulman floodlight" group 1
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0B 00 13 77 04 85 04 01 01 25 C3 F3 (True)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 85 02 01 25 C4 F5 (True)
   Z-Wave                          retrieved group 1 associations: []
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0B 00 04 00 77 05 85 03 01 01 00 04
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - started for "Autotallin etukulman floodlight"
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved module neighbors list: 13, 22, 52, 58, 62, 90, 92, 93, 94, 95, 116, 118, 120
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - assigning return route to "119 - Autotallin etukulman floodlight"
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - assigned return route
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 06 00 60 77 24 C5 0F (True)
   Z-Wave Error                    missing expected node callback ack (119) for requestManufactureInfo (will re-send)
   Z-Wave Error                    Syncing - failed
   Z-Wave Error                    Timeout waiting for "119 - Autotallin etukulman floodlight". Module might be asleep, or is unreachable.
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - started for "Autotallin etukulman floodlight"
   Z-Wave Error                    Syncing - failed
   Z-Wave Error                    Timeout waiting for "119 - Autotallin etukulman floodlight". Module might be asleep, or is unreachable.
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - started for "Autotallin etukulman floodlight"
   Z-Wave Error                    Syncing - failed
   Z-Wave Error                    Timeout waiting for "119 - Autotallin etukulman floodlight". Module might be asleep, or is unreachable.

10. Feb 2020 at 6.20.35
   Z-Wave Error                    no ack/nak/busy reply (119) for requestManufactureInfo (re-sending)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 72 04 25 C6 05 (True)
   Z-Wave                          retrieved module neighbors list: 13, 22, 52, 58, 62, 90, 92, 93, 94, 95, 116, 118, 120
   Z-Wave                          retrieved module neighbors list: 13, 22, 52, 58, 62, 90, 92, 93, 94, 95, 116, 118, 120
   Z-Wave                          sent "Autotallin Ilmanvaihto" set brightness to 10
   Z-Wave                          retrieved manufacture and model names: Unknown - 0271, Notification Sensor - 00021A72
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0E 00 04 00 77 08 72 05 02 71 00 02 1A 72 E4

10. Feb 2020 at 6.20.59
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - started for "Autotallin etukulman floodlight"
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved module neighbors list: 13, 22, 52, 58, 62, 90, 92, 93, 94, 95, 116, 118, 120
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - assigning return route to "119 - Autotallin etukulman floodlight"
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - assigned return route
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 06 00 60 77 24 CA 00 (True)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 72 04 25 CB 08 (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved manufacture and model names: Steinel - 0271, Outdoor Motion Sensor (IS 140-2) - 00021A72
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0E 00 04 00 77 08 72 05 02 71 00 02 1A 72 E4
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 86 11 25 CC EE (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved protocol version 4.38, app version 0.48
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 11 00 04 00 77 0B 86 12 03 04 26 00 30 01 01 00 0D 1E
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 86 13 60 25 CD 8F (True)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 86 13 31 25 CE DD (True)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0A 00 04 00 77 04 86 14 60 04 74
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved class hierarchy: Routing Slave : Notification Sensor : Notification Sensor (04 : 07 : 01, base 00)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved command classes: 20v1 60v4 71v1 85v1 86v1 27v1 8Ev1 70v1 31v4 72v1 73v1 77v1 59v1 7Av1 5Av1 5Ev1 25v1
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved encrypt commands: - none -
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0A 00 04 00 77 04 86 14 31 04 25
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved capabilities: routing, beaming
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 60 07 25 CF 1D (True)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 60 09 01 25 D0 0F (True)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0B 00 04 00 77 05 60 08 00 03 00 E9
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 60 09 02 25 D1 0D (True)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 10 00 04 00 77 0A 60 0A 01 07 01 5E 85 8E 59 71 86
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 60 09 03 25 D2 0F (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved multi-endpoint types: 1:(07 : 01), 2:(21 : 01), 3:(10 : 01)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved multi-endpoint classes: 1:[5E 85 8E 59 71], 2:[5E 31 85 8E 59], 3:[5E 85 8E 59 25 27 22]
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 10 00 04 00 77 0A 60 0A 02 21 01 5E 31 85 8E 59 E3
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 12 00 04 00 77 0C 60 0A 03 10 01 5E 85 8E 59 25 27 22 C6
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 85 05 25 D3 E6 (True)
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 85 02 01 25 D4 E5 (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved group 1 associations: []
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 85 06 04 01
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 85 02 02 25 D5 E7 (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved group 2 associations: []
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0B 00 04 00 77 05 85 03 01 01 00 04
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 85 02 03 25 D6 E5 (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved group 3 associations: []
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0B 00 04 00 77 05 85 03 02 10 00 16
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 85 02 04 25 D7 E3 (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved group 4 associations: []
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0B 00 04 00 77 05 85 03 03 10 00 17
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0D 00 13 77 06 8E 01 01 00 01 01 25 D8 E3 (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - added group 1 multi association to interface
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0B 00 04 00 77 05 85 03 04 10 00 10
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 70 05 01 25 D9 1A (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved parameter 1 "Off delay" is 5 seconds
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 70 05 05 25 DA 1D (True)
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - retrieved parameter 5 "Motion sensitivity" is 20
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 70 06 01 02 00 05 F6
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0B 00 04 00 77 05 70 06 05 01 14 E4
   Z-Wave                          Syncing - complete
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119 Endpoint 3): 01 0D 00 13 77 06 60 0D 01 03 25 02 25 DB 26 (True)
   Z-Wave                          sent "Autotallin etukulman floodlight" status request
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119 Endpoint 3): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 25 03 00 FF
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0D 00 04 00 77 07 60 0D 03 01 25 03 00 CF
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119 Endpoint 1): 01 0D 00 13 77 06 60 0D 01 01 71 04 25 DC 71 (True)
   Z-Wave                          sent "Autotallin etukulman motion sensor" status request
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command sent (Node 119 Endpoint 2): 01 0D 00 13 77 06 60 0D 01 02 31 04 25 DD 33 (True)
   Z-Wave                          sent "Autotallin etukulman luminance" status request
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119 Endpoint 2): 01 0A 00 04 00 77 04 22 01 00 00 FF
   Z-Wave Watcher Debug            Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0E 00 04 00 77 08 60 0D 02 01 22 01 00 00 C7



Matt, just checked from the log and it seems that association removal & resync did the trick - luminance value is updating, currently 733lux (rainy day).

Motion sensor and "floodlight" have also updated 2 hours ago so I think the problem is solved. I test the motion sensor if it updates the UI after I get back home tonight.

[matt (support)]

Great – I'm glad it is up and working now.

Motion sensor status works as it should - goes on with motion and stays on for as long as the off delay defines. And same for ”floodlight”! Now off for buying some more!

I've been having issue with Steinel outdoor sensor lately and dont know if its faulty unit or is there issue with device definition in Indigo or what. I hope someone could help me out debugging this issue.

Device functions normally for a while (=anything between 15minutes or 3 weeks) but then z-wave communications fails partly and after some more time device will stop communicating completely and has to be powered off to regain normal functionality.

So first issues when normal functions stop are motion sensor not to report movement anymore in Indigo. Motion sensor works since I can hear it clicking when approaching it and relay (connected to lamp) will turn on. If I send status request command through Indigo, devices status timestamp will be updated but device states will not. If I dont power cycle device and time passes (=hours to days), status timestamp wont be updated and device wont recognize motion and switch relay on anymore. Device will stay functional if send scheduled status requests but reporting to Indigo wont work.

This device is on the outer limits of my network so might be signal issue and signals partly losing.

Any ideas what to try or how to debug the issue?

[matt (support)]

This device is on the outer limits of my network so might be signal issue and signals partly losing.

Can you add a module (or range extender)? I suspect the module is trying to communicate back to the Z-Stick and after it fails too many times (not sure how many that would be) it stops trying and never gracefully recovers. I know some (at least one) Z-Wave thermostats have that problem. and basically stop even trying to send commands back.