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Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:34 pm
by ckeyes888
I’ve come across some great deals on Zwave wall switches that work fine with Indigo control but unfortunately don’t
report their status when operated locally.

Maybe someone could recommend one that definitely does report correctly to Indigo?
A double-tap capability would be a plus.

Thanks,

Carl

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:47 pm
by jay (support)
I recommend the HomeSeer switches. They have a nice feature set including multiple tap support. Full support for the 100+ line is already in Indigo, and the ability to catch all 5 taps and set the LED color and behavior (among other settings) of the 200+ switches is coming in 7.2 (basic operation is already there). Matt has just installed a bunch of these and seems quite pleased with them. I have several of both the 100 and 200 lines and I like them almost as much as I do the Insteon switches (and I like them better in some respects).

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:55 pm
by ckeyes888
Thanks a bunch. The $20 switches have been very reliable but I do need key switches to function as controllers.

Carl

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:44 pm
by TwitchCaptain
I second the HomeSeer Switches.

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:40 pm
by 7rdr7
Agree on Homeseer, I've tried most switch vendors, Homeseer seems the best, feature support and firmware updates. Already have the WD-200 switches and using the colored status lights to monitor door/garage door status on Indigo 7.1. Works great!

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:25 pm
by t-star
Looking for some help. I just installed a HS-WD200+ I did the inclusion with encryption but not sure it worked properly. I didn't get the long message that I think I usually get.
I have no idea how to trigger it to go into exclusion mode to into inclusion mode again. I can pick the node in creating a new device but it won't synch.

Any ideas? 7rdr7 said that he had them installed already. hoping for some help here.

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:20 pm
by jay (support)
t-star wrote:
Looking for some help. I just installed a HS-WD200+ I did the inclusion with encryption but not sure it worked properly. I didn't get the long message that I think I usually get.
I have no idea how to trigger it to go into exclusion mode to into inclusion mode again. I can pick the node in creating a new device but it won't synch.

Any ideas? 7rdr7 said that he had them installed already. hoping for some help here.


Any reason why you included it with encryption? It doesn't really help anything, and it's likely to make it somewhat slower.

I have a couple and Matt has a lot and we haven't had any issues.

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:37 pm
by t-star
jay (support) wrote:
t-star wrote:
Looking for some help. I just installed a HS-WD200+ I did the inclusion with encryption but not sure it worked properly. I didn't get the long message that I think I usually get.
I have no idea how to trigger it to go into exclusion mode to into inclusion mode again. I can pick the node in creating a new device but it won't synch.

Any ideas? 7rdr7 said that he had them installed already. hoping for some help here.


Any reason why you included it with encryption? It doesn't really help anything, and it's likely to make it somewhat slower.

I have a couple and Matt has a lot and we haven't had any issues.


Habit. The first z-wave devices I got were locks. Any idea how to get it undone and re-include?

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:56 pm
by t-star
thanks. I tried that earlier and it didn't work. I guess having been away from it for a little while helped. I tried it again and it seemed to work. I re-included without encryption and synched fine.

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:07 pm
by peszko
I tried including with encryption, (no specific reason), it failed. I tried excluding, but what do I press on the switch after I start exclusion in Indigo? Manual for the switch HS-ws200+ has nothing on exclusion. Any help?

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:34 pm
by peszko
I found it. Turn the switch on then off. Why couldn't they put it in the manual. BTW, why does indigo not support encryption for the switches? I'm new to zwave, but wouldn't encryption be safer? If somebody had access to send z-wave signals in to my system, they could do quite a lot of damage.

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:49 pm
by peszko
The switch supports it and can be included in the z-wave network with encryption, Indigo has a problem synchronizing it. Homeseer's own software can work with encryption turned on.

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:56 pm
by matt (support)
We haven't tried including the HS-WD200 or HS-WS200 with encryption in Indigo yet. Indigo definitely does support encryption, but there might be issues with a particular module's implementation that causes it to not work. We highly recommend, however, only using encryption for modules when it is really needed. So yes for locks and garage door controllers but not for light switches. The encryption protocol is significantly more complicated and requires several commands to be sent for every action. This increases the odds of collisions/congestion as well as hitting various firmware bugs in the module (and/or Z-Wave protocol stack).

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:37 pm
by t-star
I did try the HS-WD200+ and did not have much luck with the encryption on. See messages above. Went back to non-encrypted.

Re: Recommend Zwave Wall Dimmer Switch?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:30 am
by peszko
Mat, thank you for explaining. I'm ok using the switches without encryption if it causes other issues. Currently, I have only three z-wave devices and about 150 insteon. I'm slowly switching from insteon to z-wave due to stability issues I encountered. So stability and reliability is very important to me. Would you know at what point, would the extra z-wave traffic start being a problem?