Popp CO sensor

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Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:51 am
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Popp CO sensor

Could you please add support for the Popp CO sensor?

It's not easy to find CO (not CO2) z-wave sensor, purchased this one. Syncs fine, but CO level is not shown (detected as a notification sensor)

Carbon Monoxide is much more dangerous than CO2...

http://www.popp.eu/wp-content/uploads/2 ... OPP_en.pdf

Z-Wave Syncing - started for "Stairs 1st CO Sensor"
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved module neighbors list: - none -
Z-Wave Syncing - assigning return route to "145 - Stairs 1st CO Sensor"
Z-Wave Syncing - assigned return route
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved manufacture and model names: Popp & Co. - 0154, Notification Sensor - 00040003
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved protocol version 4.05, app version 1.00
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved class hierarchy: Routing Slave : Notification Sensor : Notification Sensor (04 : 07 : 01, base 00)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved command classes: 80v1 84v2 85v1 86v1 98v1 59v1 5Av1 5Ev1 20v1 30v1 71v1 70v1 31v7 72v1 73v1 7Av1
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved encrypt commands: - none -
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved capabilities: routing, battery, beaming, security, waking
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved wake interval of 60 minutes
Z-Wave Syncing - device "145 - Stairs 1st CO Sensor" wake interval changed to 60 minutes
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved group 1 associations: [1]
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved group 2 associations: []
Z-Wave Syncing - group 1 association to interface already exists (skipping)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved battery level of 100%
Z-Wave Syncing - complete

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Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:03 pm
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Re: Popp CO sensor

Indigo 7.2.0 is now available for download and has Z-Wave support for the Popp CO Detector (004407).

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Re: Popp CO sensor

Hi

I just got one of these (was rather chuffed when I saw it used the same 3.6v battery old Macs used to use) and it's all synced and seems to be working, except the CO level is perpetually showing as 0.000000 mol/m3. I'm assuming that's not right.. any ideas on diagnosing what's going on? (And I have tried unpairing it and re-pairing it and it is in encrypted mode)

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Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:54 am
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Re: Popp CO sensor

Puta Zwave watcher on it and post log results after a wake period.


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Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:36 pm
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Re: Popp CO sensor

Oooh good idea. I’ll do that once my current crisis is resolved (my Mac mini completely died.. moving to a backup but it’s being a pain in the rear end)

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Re: Popp CO sensor

howartp wrote:
Puta Zwave watcher on it and post log results after a wake period.


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Hmm, so installed it and set it up but after a wake period the device for the z-wave watcher hasn't updated (as in the last updated date and time still shows as in 2000) and nothing is in the log besides the messages stating the CO device has updated. I've unpaired, repaired, tried without encryption... nothing.. nada.. zilch!

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Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:30 pm
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Re: Popp CO sensor

Go to Interfaces > Zwave > Associations.

Check there's one for node 1 (your ZStick), usually on association group 1.

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Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:47 pm
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Re: Popp CO sensor

Yeah I'd already checked on that... and also the tamper device does update accordingly when it is opened so it must be registered correctly with the z-stick.

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Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:39 pm
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Re: Popp CO sensor

Press the test button? That should log something in Watcher.

It says in manual it doesn’t send battery, so there’s actually not much to send until you run a pipe from your wife’s car exhaust to your staircase and close all the windows.

(I wouldn’t try it with yours, you’ll be waiting a while!)


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Re: Popp CO sensor

Interestingly nothing happens when I press the test button on the device.. but as it seems to be a standard off the shelf CO sensor that they've added a Z-Wave module to that doesn't surprise me (And it does beep with that). Now the weird thing is the battery DOES show.. I saw that myself and thought it was perhaps a mistake. However it does show on the device that is created for the mol/m3 reading so I'm wondering if there's something off on the Indigo definition of it?

Also it wouldn't be the wife's exhaust.. she now has the Zoe.. I'm stuck with a ancient XC90.. I'm pretty certain that It would most certainly set off the sensor very VERY quickly.

Roll on the Tesla Model Y.. :D

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Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:02 pm
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Re: Popp CO sensor

I just been looking at mols.

35ppm (parts per million, which is what Popp reports in) is 1 mol/m3 which you say Indigo reports in.

Popp goes into alarm at 43ppm after 60 minutes, so presumably your CO should be something around 30ppm or 0.85 mol/m3

Manual says it doesn’t send battery, then it says it does.

How many devices does indigo create? Sounds like 2 from what you’re saying? Tamper separately?

Have you put a watcher on the tamper?


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Re: Popp CO sensor

Also re-sync it and post the Event Log results. I'm wondering if the one you have identifies itself the same as shapa above.

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Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:26 am
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Re: Popp CO sensor

I’ll have a look at this in the next few days and see. I was wondering if it might be a different variant to shapa’s!

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Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:48 am
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Re: Popp CO sensor

Oh, interestingly the z-wave watcher has started posting details. I'm not sure what changed but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Z-Wave received "119 - Landing - CO Level" status update battery level 100%
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 80 03 64 61
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 80 02 25 52 65 (True)
Z-Wave received "119 - Landing - CO Level" status update battery level 100%
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 08 00 04 00 77 02 84 07 05
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 80 03 64 61
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 84 08 24 53 6B (True)

also here's the sync log:

Z-Wave Syncing - started for "Landing - CO Level"
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved module neighbors list: 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 27, 28, 29, 33, 35, 50, 51, 54, 60, 70, 84, 86, 90, 95, 96, 104, 107, 108, 109, 110, 115
Z-Wave Syncing - assigning return route to "119 - Landing - CO Level"
Z-Wave Syncing - assigned return route
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 06 00 60 77 24 5C 96 (True)
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 72 04 25 5D 9E (True)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved manufacture and model names: Popp & Co. - 0154, CO Detector (004407) - 00040003
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0E 00 04 00 77 08 72 05 01 54 00 04 00 03 AF
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 86 11 25 5E 7C (True)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved protocol version 4.05, app version 1.00
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0F 00 04 00 77 09 86 12 03 04 05 01 00 01 00 1C
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 86 13 84 25 5F F9 (True)
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 86 13 31 25 60 73 (True)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved class hierarchy: Routing Slave : Notification Sensor : Notification Sensor (04 : 07 : 01, base 00)
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0A 00 04 00 77 04 86 14 84 02 96
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved command classes: 20v1 80v1 84v2 85v1 86v1 30v1 70v1 71v1 72v1 73v1 5Av1 59v1 31v7 7Av1 5Ev1
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved encrypt commands: - none -
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved capabilities: routing, battery, beaming, waking
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0A 00 04 00 77 04 86 14 31 07 26
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 84 05 25 61 55 (True)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved wake interval of 4 minutes
Z-Wave Syncing - device "119 - Landing - CO Level" wake interval changed to 5 minutes
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0D 00 13 77 06 84 04 00 01 2C 01 25 62 7B (True)
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 84 06 00 00 F0 01 F5
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 85 05 25 63 56 (True)
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 85 02 01 25 64 55 (True)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved group 1 associations: [1]
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 85 06 02 07
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 85 02 02 25 65 57 (True)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved group 2 associations: []
Z-Wave Syncing - group 1 association to interface already exists (skipping)
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 85 03 01 0A 00 01 0A
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0B 00 04 00 77 05 85 03 02 0A 00 0C
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 80 02 25 66 51 (True)
Z-Wave Syncing - retrieved battery level of 100%
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 80 03 64 61
Z-Wave Syncing - complete
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 0A 00 13 77 03 31 04 28 25 67 CD (True)
Z-Wave sent "Landing - CO Level" status request
Z-Wave received "Landing - CO Level" sensor update to 0.000000 mol/m3
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 0C 00 04 00 77 06 31 05 28 C2 00 00 58
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command sent (Node 119): 01 09 00 13 77 02 80 02 25 68 5F (True)
Z-Wave received "119 - Landing - CO Level" status update battery level 100%
Z-Wave Watcher Debug Raw command received (Node 119): 01 09 00 04 00 77 03 80 03 64 61

Looks like the same model number to me

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Re: Popp CO sensor

howartp wrote:
I just been looking at mols.

35ppm (parts per million, which is what Popp reports in) is 1 mol/m3 which you say Indigo reports in.

Popp goes into alarm at 43ppm after 60 minutes, so presumably your CO should be something around 30ppm or 0.85 mol/m3

Manual says it doesn’t send battery, then it says it does.

How many devices does indigo create? Sounds like 2 from what you’re saying? Tamper separately?

Have you put a watcher on the tamper?


I assume that it'll report values below its first threshold.. but I can't find anything to confirm or disprove that.

Mine creates 3 devices. One is the tamper, one is alarm (which has an on/off switch but doesn't do anything which isn't surprising but a bit weird it has it) and the CO level which shows the mol level, but also shows a battery level of 100%.

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