Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

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Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

I'm using the Qubino flush shutter for my venetian blinds – even Indigo does not know this module, it works almost perfectly thank to the "Modify Configuration Parameter"-function of Indigo :D

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

In case anyone is interested i'm using the DC version of this, similarly seems to be working perfectly with indigo with modifications as described by Nine.

Full device info (pre mods) from log just in case it hasn't already been submitted:

14 Apr 2016, 17:10:44
Z-Wave Indigo Device "Study - Venetian Blinds" Z-Wave Properties:
Indigo Z-Wave Version: 1.0.362
Node ID: 55
Model: Motor Control Class C
Model ID: 00030053
Manufacturer: Qubino
Manufacturer ID: 0159
Protocol Version: 4.05
Application Version: 1.01
Model Definition Version: 0
Library Type: 3
Class Name: Motor Control Class C
Class Hierarchy: 04 : 11 : 07
Command Class Base: 26
Command Versions: 20v1 25v1 26v3 27v1 32v4 8Ev1 70v1 72v1 73v1 5Ev1 59v1 5Av1 86v1 85v1
Multi-Endpoint Types: - none -
Multi-Endpoint Classes: - none -
Multi-Instance Counts: - none -
Features: routing, beaming, energyMeter
Neighbors: 1, 3, 4, 18, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 29, 30, 31, 36
Associations: 1:[1] 2:[] 3:[] 4:[] 5:[] 6:[] 7:[] 8:[] 9:[]
Config Values: - none -

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

Thanks for the information and report. Do you have the details about the config parameters is supports?

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Sat May 28, 2016 4:16 pm
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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

Gents,

I have a couple of the Qubino Roller Shutters (generation 2) with part number ZMNHCD1 (the last digit indicates which Z-Wave frequency the unit has).

They are working fine but recently I found out that after a power drop they stop reporting instant status back to Indigo?

Easy to reproduce:

1. When moving the roller shutter up/down by either a directly connected dual paddle switch or by a directly associated battery operated controller I see status of the roller shutter in the Indigo log. For example 0 when fully down and 100 when fully up (or vice versa).

2. Disconnect power from the Qubino ZMNHCD1.

3. Connect power back.

4. Move the roller shutter in the same way as above in paragraph 1. No more instant updates of the status of the roller shutter eventhough the shutter works fine.
If I press"Send Status Request" the GUI will show the proper status of the device.

5. I do a re-sync of the device in Indigo and in all cases the first synch does not work out completely. The unit does not respond properly and Indigo times out the sync process. Try again and now the sync completes. Happens every time I test this.

6. Control the roller shutter again and voilaaaa! The Indigo log again shows the proper status of the Qubino ZMNHCD1 roller shutter.

What is going on here?! I have two of these and both of my ZMNHCD1 are marked with "ZMNHCD1 H182P1".
I guess the H182P1 in some way indicates firmware version of the unit.

Here is the log output of the device:

Indigo Z-Wave Version: 1.0.365
Node ID: 129
Model: Motor Control Class C
Model ID: 00030052
Manufacturer: Qubino
Manufacturer ID: 0159
Protocol Version: 4.05
Application Version: 1.01
Model Definition Version: 0
Library Type: 3
Class Name: Motor Control Class C
Class Hierarchy: 04 : 11 : 07
Command Class Base: 26
Command Versions: 20v1 25v1 26v3 27v1 32v4 8Ev1 70v1 72v1 73v1 5Ev1 59v1 5Av1 86v1 85v1
Multi-Endpoint Types: - none -
Multi-Endpoint Classes: - none -
Multi-Instance Counts: - none -
Features: routing, beaming, energyMeter
Neighbors: 2, 3, 10, 11, 14, 15, 66
Associations: 1:[1] 2:[] 3:[] 4:[] 5:[] 6:[] 7:[] 8:[] 9:[]
Config Values: - none -


Config params seems to be the same for ZMNHCDx as they are for the previous model ZMNHCAx.
Link to user manual with config params for ZMNHCDx: https://www.tronika.no/en/index.php?controller=attachment&id_attachment=432
Link to user manual with config params for ZMNHCAx: http://www.benext.eu/static/manual/qubino/flush-shutter-ZMNHCA2.pdf

Config parameter number 80 is by default set to 1 which means that the Qubino Roller Shutter is configured to send updates to the controller of its state when it changes.
Strange that the newer model which this thread is about does not mention parameter 80 at all in the documentation. I did check it though through the Indigo parameter function and it is indeed set to 1 which means that the device should send updates of its status to the controller.

I have a couple of similar Roller Shutter devices from Fibaro (FG-221) and they do not have this issue....
Last edited by CrazyFin on Sat May 28, 2016 4:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

I have one of these, but the DC version and it doesn't have this issue from what I've just tested.

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

I have one of these, but the DC version and it doesn't have this issue from what I've just tested.


Can you check what the firmware is on your devices? (If you can gain access to them easily.) If I understand correctly the firmware of the device is the number after the device number ZMNHCD1. Mine has H182P1.

Just for fun I tested with an Aeon Labs Micro Smart Dimmer (2nd edition) DC19103 and no problems at all even if I unplug power to the dimmer and then power it back.

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

I seem to recall it was 1.4.. I know it's a newer version as it supports the Venetian tilting parameter.. But I'll check properly when I get up

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Mon May 30, 2016 8:18 am
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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

Ok I just got back a confirmation from Qubino here in Europe that the firmware version I have indeed has a firmware bug causing this issue.

I will return them back to my local supplier www.m.nu and get new/updated ones back.

@Matt: Did you see that the config params are available in the PDF-files I linked to above?

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Ah good! I've been quite chuffed with their technical support, actually feels like they know what they're talking about

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

durosity wrote:
Ah good! I've been quite chuffed with their technical support, actually feels like they know what they're talking about


Chuffed? That's a new one to me. Means pleased?

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

Happy. Excited. Pleased :D

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Two Nations divided by a common language!

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Yeah.. I just happen to be running on a newer version of that language ;)

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

And now two devices with the new firmware versions (H1S5P1) has arrived here and problem is gone. :-)

(I previously wrote that I had H182P1 on the non-working devices but it should have been H1S2P1.)

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Re: Qubino Flush shutter (ZMNHCD1)

Excellento! I'll keep an eye out for older ones as I'm planning to buy more of the DC ones soonish.

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