All On / All Off command

I have been using Z-wave for a few years, but have never bothered to look into the All On / All Off command. I have a Aeon Minimote that sends those commands and all my Z-wave plugs follows the command sent. What I don't understand is how this is supposed to be used, I guess that I should be able to differentiate between lights and other devices like appliances, so that the All On/ All Off only affects the lights, for example.

When the Minimote is sending the All On / All Off command, it doesn't show in the Indigo log. Is the command sent directly to the devices from the Minimote without involving Indigo?

Then there is the "All Lights On" and "All Lights Off" in Indigo as an action. I guess that I have to configure the light devices in Indigo as "Lights" then?

Thanks!

Peter

It's my understanding that the all on/all off is handled at the device profile level, to ensure that only appropriate device types respond to the command.

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The attached image is the profile for a Leviton in-wall light switch, which you would think would respond to all on / all off, but my suspicion is that this is what the manufacturer chose to support (or not). I don't know how Indigo handles the Minimote.

What I have done is created six action groups:

Turn on all inside lights
Turn off all inside lights
Same for outside lights
Same for all lights

Which for my purposes works just fine. Good luck!
Dave

Here are the profiles of the Minimote and the Aeon Gen5 switch. The Minimote sends All On when pressing button 1+2 and All Off when pressing button 3+4. The Aeon switch responds to the commands. However I can't see anything about this in the profiles. I did pretty much the same thing as you did with action groups, a bit curious about the All On / All Off though.

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    21 Nov 2015 14:34:01
      Z-Wave                          Indigo Device "Minimote" Z-Wave Properties:
    Indigo Z-Wave Version: 1.0.354
    Node ID: 7
    Model: Minimote (DSA03202x)
    Model ID: 00010003
    Manufacturer: Aeon Labs
    Manufacturer ID: 0086
    Protocol Version: 2.78
    Application Version: 1.19
    Model Definition Version: 3
    Library Type: 2
    Class Name: Portable Remote Controller
    Class Hierarchy: 01 : 01 : 01
    Command Class Base: 00
    Command Versions: 20v1 70v1 72v1 9Bv1 86v1
    Multi-Endpoint Types: - none -
    Multi-Endpoint Classes: - none -
    Multi-Instance Counts: - none -
    Features: beaming
    Neighbors: - none -
    Associations: - none -
    Config Values: 250:1

      Z-Wave                          Indigo Device "Switch 1" Z-Wave Properties:
    Indigo Z-Wave Version: 1.0.354
    Node ID: 4
    Model: Relay Power Switch
    Model ID: 0003004B
    Manufacturer: Aeon Labs
    Manufacturer ID: 0086
    Protocol Version: 3.83
    Application Version: 2.23
    Model Definition Version: 0
    Library Type: 3
    Class Name: Relay Power Switch
    Class Hierarchy: 04 : 10 : 01
    Command Class Base: 25
    Command Versions: 20v1 25v1 86v1 27v1 2Bv1 2Cv1 32v3 70v1 72v1 73v1 56v1 98v1 59v1 7Av1 5Ev1 85v1
    Multi-Endpoint Types: - none -
    Multi-Endpoint Classes: - none -
    Multi-Instance Counts: - none -
    Features: routing, beaming, energyMeter
    Neighbors: - none -
    Associations: 1:[1] 2:[]
    Config Values: - none -


[matt (support)]

I believe Z-Wave all on/off occurs within the transmitting device itself. All it does is send the on/off commands to all devices that have direct associations with the buttons.

The devices responding to the All On/Off command actually isn't associated with the Minimote, they just belong to the same Z-wave network.

[matt (support)]

Ah, okay. Let me look into that then...