Fibaro Smart Implant

Has anyone tested one of these yet?

[jay (support)]

Nobody has submitted device information for it, so it seems unlikely.

[matt (support)]

Actually, I worked with autolog (he has one) a while back and the next version of Indigo should support it.

Splendid thanks

[jay (support)]

Actually, I worked with autolog (he has one) a while back and the next version of Indigo should support it.

Ah - so someone didn't follow the process, eh?

Great find!
I approve of the deviation from standard device-support-procedure.
Also, I was slightly disappointed to read that it’s not an actual implant- gotta say I was kinda jazzed about the prospect

[matt (support)]

Indigo 7.4 is now available and includes support for the Fibaro Smart Implant.

Thanks for adding support of the Fibaro Smart Implant.
We just replace an "old" Fibaro Binary sensor for the Smart Implant.
Re-synced the existing Indigo Device (with a lot of Triggers) with the new Smart Implant.
But that's not a good idea because more than half of the new possibilities don't show up....
We missed a lot of stuff.

So, we made a new Indigo Device with a new sync of the Fibaro Smart Implant.
That gave a lot of possibilities!

The input wires and colours are the same as the old binary sensor.
So, we used the same input settings at the new wire: red for power, blue for ground and yellow for the simple switch input (+ground) at input 1.
This works perfect for the Binary sensor but not for the Fibaro Implant:
It simply does nothing at all after pushing the switch.

We tried other settings but nothing happened.
What's going wrong here?

Below the settings, thanks for support.


Z-Wave Indigo Device "089 - Binary IN1" Z-Wave Properties:
Indigo Z-Wave Version: 7.4.0
Node ID: 89
Model: Smart Implant (FGBS222)
Model ID: 05021000
Manufacturer: Fibaro System
Manufacturer ID: 010F
Protocol Version: 6.02
Application Version: 5.01
Model Definition Version: 1
Library Type: 3
Class Name: Notification Sensor
Class Hierarchy: 04 : 07 : 01
Command Class Base: 00
Command Versions: 85v1 86v1 8Ev1 98v1 9Fv1 20v1 22v1 25v1 31v11 55v1 56v1 59v1 5Av1 5Bv1 5Ev1 60v4 6Cv1 70v1 71v1 72v1 73v1 75v1 7Av1
Encryption Status: Supported but not Enabled
Multi-Endpoint Types: 1:(07 : 01), 2:(07 : 01), 3:(21 : 01), 4:(21 : 01), 5:(10 : 01), 6:(10 : 01), 7:(21 : 01)
Multi-Endpoint Classes: 1:[5E 85 8E 59 71 6C 22 98 9F], 2:[5E 85 8E 59 71 6C 22 98 9F], 3:[5E 85 8E 59 31 6C 22 98 9F], 4:[5E 85 8E 59 31 6C 22 98 9F], 5:[5E 25 85 8E 59 75 6C 22 98 9F], 6:[5E 25 85 8E 59 75 6C 22 98 9F], 7:[5E 85 8E 59 31 71 6C 22 98 9F]
Multi-Instance Counts: - none -
Features: routing, beaming, security
Neighbors: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 19, 20, 21, 23, 25, 27, 30, 31, 34, 35
Associations: 1:[1] 2:[] 3:[]
Config Values: 64:0 65:5 66:0 67:5 68:0 40:0 41:0 20:1 21:0 150:10 151:10 24:0 25:0 154:0 155:0 156:0 157:0 63:5

I think that your Input Type 1 should be Push Button (Enables Scenes).

Give that a try.

Ohh... OOHH.. analogue input could be interesting.. so could you get a 0-10v potentiometer and use that for say controlling a dimmer? Any other use cases folks have been using for this? (Sorry I'm horribly out of the loop..)

I think that your Input Type 1 should be Push Button (Enables Scenes).

Give that a try.

Thanks for your quick help!
We already tried the different input settings but unfortunately no luck...
Any other ideas?

I would turn on Z-Wave debugging and see if you are getting anything received from the device.

PS; as said above;

"Re-synced the existing Indigo Device (with a lot of Triggers) with the new Smart Implant.
But that's not a good idea because more than half of the new possibilities don't show up...."

BUT: after that we synced the existing Indigo Device again with the old Fibaro Binary sensor and that gave a new problem....
Some parts (of the Implant) are suddenly in use by the old Indigo Device and Indigo doesn't have the possibilities to break this connection.

Sort of chain reaction because the old Indigo Device has now new hidden possibilities and it won't re-sync now.
So, this old Indigo Device with a lot of triggers is now useless...

("Right-click on the devices in the main window and choose the Show Dependencies menu to find the references, then modify those objects to not reference the device and re-sync this device again", "then modify those objects to not reference the device " , this option doesn't work.

I would turn on Z-Wave debugging and see if you are getting anything received from the device.

Thanks for the hint!
I'm afraid that only the GUI represents the Fibaro Smart Implant because with the Z-Wave debugging we saw the actions in the log below.
But never (even after a new ex- and inclusion into the Z-Stick), the Binary IN1 goes On or Off in the Indigo Home Widow.
So, the data of the Smart Implant is coming to Indigo but it doesn't understand it.


Input 1 Type: “Push Button”
Input 1 scene sending: Held down and release only:

Z-Wave Debug RCVD sceneActivateCmd2: 01 0B 00 04 00 59 05 5B 03 17 02 01 E0
Z-Wave Debug . . sceneActivateCmd2: node 089, type: 2, scene: 1
Z-Wave received "089 - Binary IN1" button 1 held down

Z-Wave Debug RCVD sceneActivateCmd2: 01 0B 00 04 00 59 05 5B 03 18 01 01 EC
Z-Wave Debug . . sceneActivateCmd2: node 089, type: 1, scene: 1
Z-Wave received "089 - Binary IN1" button 1 released


========================================================================================================================
Input 1 Type: “Normally Open”
Input 1 scene sending: Held down and release only:

Close:
-Wave Debug RCVD requestAlarmSensorStatus: 01 0F 00 04 00 59 09 71 05 00 00 00 FF 07 02 00 2A
Z-Wave Debug . . requestAlarmSensorStatus: node 089, endpoint None, cmdClass 71, type 0, value 0, classSubKey 710000
Z-Wave Debug . . requestAlarmSensorStatus: typeExt 7, valueExt 2, classSubKeyExt 7100000702

Open:
Z-Wave Debug RCVD requestAlarmSensorStatus: 01 0F 00 04 00 59 09 71 05 00 00 00 FF 07 00 00 28
Z-Wave Debug . . requestAlarmSensorStatus: node 089, endpoint None, cmdClass 71, type 0, value 0, classSubKey 710000
Z-Wave Debug . . requestAlarmSensorStatus: typeExt 7, valueExt 0, classSubKeyExt 7100000700

========================================================================================================================
Input 1 Type: “Normally Open”
Input 1 scene sending: None:

Close:
Z-Wave Debug RCVD requestAlarmSensorStatus: 01 0F 00 04 00 59 09 71 05 00 00 00 FF 07 02 00 2A
Z-Wave Debug . . requestAlarmSensorStatus: node 089, endpoint None, cmdClass 71, type 0, value 0, classSubKey 710000
Z-Wave Debug . . requestAlarmSensorStatus: typeExt 7, valueExt 2, classSubKeyExt 7100000702

Open:
Z-Wave Debug RCVD requestAlarmSensorStatus: 01 0F 00 04 00 59 09 71 05 00 00 00 FF 07 00 00 28
Z-Wave Debug . . requestAlarmSensorStatus: node 089, endpoint None, cmdClass 71, type 0, value 0, classSubKey 710000
Z-Wave Debug . . requestAlarmSensorStatus: typeExt 7, valueExt 0, classSubKeyExt 7100000700

I haven't got my Fibaro Smart Implant device in use at the moment.

However, I think I was using a trigger of Z-wave Command Received | Incoming Command Received from Device and then Edit Event Settings... and select your Binary IN1 device. Then select what type of button push you want to intercept.