Ring Alarm Support?

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Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:05 pm
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Ring Alarm Support?

So Ring just released the DIY alarm system:
https://shop.ring.com/pages/security-system

It uses the Z-Wave protocol so I’m wondering if it will be possible to a) expose all of its sensors to Indigo and b) if the Hub itself can be added so that Indigo can arm/disarm the system. My end goal would be to run this through Indigo with the HomeBridge plugin so that I can arm the system from the Home App and have all the sensors exposed for home automation as well.

I contactacted Ring Support on Twitter and got the following reply:
“Thanks for asking, Philipp. No plans for HomeKit at this time, but Ring Alarm utilizes Z-Wave and can be integrated with other Z-Wave devices.”

“Hey, Philipp! Although you may be able to add Ring Alarm components to a Z-Wave Hub, we cannot guarantee their functionality with any hub besides our Ring Alarm Base Station.”

What do you guys think?

Thanks,

Philipp

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Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:29 pm
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Re: Ring Alarm Support?

Without actually having one, I'm going to have to make some educated guesses:

  1. To include their Z-Wave devices to Indigo, they would have to be excluded from their security hub, which seems to negate it's usefulness (you could just buy Z-Wave sensors and to it yourself in Indigo).
  2. If Ring produces an API to talk to their Hub then it would be possible to write a plugin (or update the existing Ring plugin) to talk to it.

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Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:41 pm
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Re: Ring Alarm Support?

Ring has had a consistent track record when it comes to an API....there isn't a public API from them. They have one for their partners to use, but they have yet to publish an API. I cannot see their alarm system being any different. That doesn't mean a plugin couldn't be built, but someone would need to figure out how it works. This also means in the future it could break, much like the Ring plugin for Indigo.

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Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:23 pm
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Thanks guys! I’m still waiting for the promised HomeKit support from Ring so I’m not holding my breath on an API from them. :/

Is it actually possible to build your own alarm system with sensors and a z-wave alarm or something?

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Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:08 pm
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I believe you could make your own using Z-wave. I remember some people have issues with sirens since they are not fully compatible with Indigo; that may have changed though so you might want to go through the compatibility guide. If you have sensors on the doors and windows, then Indigo can do what a basic alarm can do. If you want monitoring though, it is a different story.

Actually, here are some sirens:
http://www.indigodomo.com/devices/category/39/

You can add motion detectors, just like a regular alarm system. Given that you can also integrate say Nest Protects as well, you are ahead of a regular alarm systems since many of them are limited in the number they can support. Ultimately if you're talking about an alarm system that is not monitored, you can do more with Indigo than a regular alarm. You can create triggers with conditions, etc. with Indigo, not something that is supported or even capable of a regular alarm system.

Think about it, you could have the alarm look for your phone and if it sees it, disarm the system. So you wouldn't even need to disarm the system. You could have the system arm itself when the last person leaves.

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Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:34 pm
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Re: Ring Alarm Support?

Venicenerd wrote:
Is it actually possible to build your own alarm system with sensors and a z-wave alarm or something?


This wiki post gives some pointers in that direction.

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Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:28 pm
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Awesome, thanks. Hopefully Ring will release an API soon. It seems like great alarm system.

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Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:56 pm
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Venicenerd wrote:
Awesome, thanks. Hopefully Ring will release an API soon. It seems like great alarm system.


It doesn't fit their business model though. They haven't released an API for any of their other products, why would they start now?

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Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:28 am
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Re: Ring Alarm Support?

I am looking for a Z-Wave alarm keypad to use with Indigo and I am struggling to find one. Has anybody tried the Ring Alarm Keypad (available on Amazon for 49.99)? According to the response from Ring above it should be able to work with other Z-Wave controllers.

If not Ring, then what alarm keypads are available?

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Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:45 am
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Re: Ring Alarm Support?

Matt and Jay may need to add a profile for it to work properly or it might work out of the box. Since it hans't been tried, no one can really say. If you're willing to wait to for a profile to be added, then you might as well as buy it.

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Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:35 pm
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Ring keypad on order. Ring contact sensors as well. I will play with both. If they don’t work then back in the box and back to Amazon. Start tuned.


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Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:46 pm
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If they don't work, might as well as submit the profile information so Matt and Jay could add support in a future release.

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Re: Ring Alarm Support?

lanbrown wrote:
If they don't work, might as well as submit the profile information so Matt and Jay could add support in a future release.


That's the plan. I have already submitted several Device Reports for the devices I have purchased off Amazon that are currently unsupported. Three I am keeping and a couple I am sending back to Amazon. I have three of them working compliments of Matt's tip re using Match Raw Packet. I have the HAOZEE Contact Sensor, the DOME Motion Sensor and the ZLINK ZL-PA-100 Power Plug working using Match Raw Packet.

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John

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