Lightify Cloud decommission - August 2021

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Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:51 pm
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Lightify Cloud decommission - August 2021

Just a heads-up for users of this plugin.. Lightify is decommissioning their cloud service end of August 2021.. See official announcement here - https://www.osram.com/cb/lightify/index.jsp . The Sylvania Lightify plugin doesn't have any direct dependencies upon the cloud service, so existing installations should continue to work without issue..

HOWEVER, there are some key setup/config tasks that are reliant upon Lightify Hub and Cloud .. Namely:
* setting up a new Lightify Hub
* adding/removing Lights from your Lightify Hub
* adding/updating new Lightify Groups
Full list of capabilities before and after found here : https://www.osram.com/cb/lightify/light ... /index.jsp

So basically what this means is that your existing setup should be ok, but you won't be able to change groups, add lights, etc.. At this point I am recommending folks transition to another Hub that will continue to operate and has support.

One option is to switch over to Philips Hue. I am aware that 'some' Sylvania/Osram Lightify Bulbs that work with Hue. However, I believe many of these bulb models are EU and not US bulbs (different Zigbee standards) .. I am in the process of switching over to Philips Hue myself, and unfortunately none of my US bulbs work with the Hue system. If anyone is using their Sylvania/Osram bulbs with other hubs please chime in

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Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:57 am
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Re: Lightify Cloud decommission - August 2021

Thanks for the heads up.

I am using the Lightify bulbs with the Hue bridge but they’re the AUS version and they’re not a 100% stable. Sort of a hit and miss with the Lightify products. I am migrating to the Hue’s myself.


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Ubet @coolcaper ... Yeah I wish I had the time to figure out the Lightify setup stuff, but like you I've tried a few of the Hue bulbs - the system and connectivity just seems to work better. I have a few Lightify bulbs that always seem to go rogue and lose connectivity, whereas the Hue bulbs are pretty rock solid. I guess the Hue bulbs create a more solid Zigbee network??

BTW, I have extracted the 'Scenes' functionality of the Lightify Plugin to be standalone. It operates against the Indigo DimmerDevice type rather than a direct manufacturer device. This allows for more flexibility with different manufacturers bulbs, but at the same time loses a bit of functionality customized for Sylvania. The plugin currently supports Scenes of 'Circadian', 'Match Color/Temp', and it can operate against any Indigo DimmerDeviceType.. The 'Rotate Color/Temp' scene type isn't supported since the plugin doesn't know how to distinguish a group of lights.. Nice thing about this plugin though - if you leverage the Hue plugin to create a 'Hue Group', my plugin can create light scenes against it.. Works pretty well, as I use the 'Circadian' scene all over my house.. Let me know if there is any interest and I may package it up - add it to the Plugin Store.

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Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:15 pm
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That would be great!
If it’s not too much work, would you be able to publish the plug-in?


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Yeah most definitely can submit it as a plugin - I have it mostly good to go and just need to check it into git/package it up for Indigo.. However to come clean - I haven't spent any effort to fix-up the plug-in configuration dialog - so I'd have to apologize for the ugly comma separated text fields for configuring the scenes.

BTW curious - which scenes do you typically use? Any feedback on how these work (or don't work)?

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:20 pm
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That’ll be great.

Haven’t been using them in a while, to tell you the truth everything’s just been backseat for a while now.

But when I used to use it, it was mainly the Christmas lights scene and I think I set one up to cycle slowly through the colours. I was mainly using it for the garden spot lights.


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Ah ok gotcha - glad I asked what you are using.. So the outa the box 'Christmas' scene is based on the 'Rotate Colors' scene type.. The 'rotate' functionality requires visibility into the entire group of lights.. So unfortunately my new plugin doesn't have insights into the group.. The 'Match Colors' scene type still works, but it keeps all of the bulbs the same color (as it's just sending commands to a group which is an Indigo DimmerDevice type) .. Also, 'Circadian' scene type also works..

I'd need to have an Indigo LightGroup device or something like that to implement the Rotate colors

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Re: Lightify Cloud decommission - August 2021

@coolcaper
Coolcaper wrote:
But when I used to use it, it was mainly the Christmas lights scene and I think I set one up to cycle slowly through the colours. I was mainly using it for the garden spot lights.


@coolcaper - I finally got around to submitting this new plugin. See https://www.indigodomo.com/pluginstore/251/ . One NOTE: I don't yet have support for the 'Rotate' scene type used for the Christmas light scene you mention. This requires knowledge of each bulb in the 'group'. I had this ability with the older Sylvania Lightify plugin, since that plugin was specific to that vendor. For the more generic implementations in the Light Scenes plugin, I'll need another way. Hopefully get to it before Christmas though ;)

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Thanks rbdubz3! Appreciate the plugin and the forthcoming implementation :D

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