Indigo Domotics

After the sad news in this thread about WeatherUnderground monetizing their API I wanted to ask if WeatherSnoop would continue to communicate with Weather Underground stations. I'm assuming that since WS is a paid program and there is revenue that paying the API fees is not as burdensome as it is for a free developer but wanted to double check.

Colorado4Wheeler wrote:

After the sad news in this thread about WeatherUnderground monetizing their API I wanted to ask if WeatherSnoop would continue to communicate with Weather Underground stations. I'm assuming that since WS is a paid program and there is revenue that paying the API fees is not as burdensome as it is for a free developer but wanted to double check.

No reply from the weatherSnoop team then?

No, not yet. I'm hoping that since WS is a paid software that it's financially viable for them to continue to feed WU data.

Hi,

I'm just seeing this. Sorry for the late reply.

I read the announcement that was referenced in the link, and it's the first I've heard of it. I cannot speak for other products, but the API key that WeatherSnoop uses to upload data is still functioning. Downloading from a station to WeatherSnoop using the built-in Weather Underground plug-in is still functioning as well.

We have had a long relationship with Weather Underground, but we weren't made aware of this particular change on their part, so this probably affects individual weather stations and not providers like us.

For the present time, they're honoring free API keys but not issuing new ones. They're accepting PWS uploads and (as far as I know) downloads, but they've stated that they will probably limit PWS downloads at some point to CSV data only (not API) but I don't believe that's happened yet. There was scant information available without talking with a sales rep, but the word on the street is that the minimum plan is going to be about $850 per month.

Matters not to me any longer, just as long my my good old Weathersnoop stays alive and I have Dark Sky via Fantastic to fill my needs.

Unless I am missing something, it appears that Tee-Boy has removed Wunderground as a weather source from their recently released version 3.2.5.

I installed a trial version of WeatherSnoop 4, and although it has Underground as a weather source, testing of this with several different stations has produced nothing but errors. The log is reporting, for example, "May 11 12:50:11 com.tee-boy.WeatherSnoop4[40340] <Info>: HTTP connection failed! Error - Request failed: unauthorized (401) (null) #Weather Underground Agent".

UPDATE: The recent minor update of WeatherSnoop 4.1.9 also removed Wunderground as a weather source. Why did this happen?!

Any help or insights would be greatly appreciated. My home's Indigo uses weather data for all sorts of things (e.g. controlling thermostat set points, sprinklers, etc.). I really do not want to purchase expensive weather station hardware, and then pay $69 for WeatherSnoop 4 that may or may not work in future releases!

Read this post for the reason behind removing this feature: http://forums.weathersnoop.com/viewtopi ... =18&t=1118

In short, the Weather Underground download service is no longer free. It doesn't work unless you want to pay $150/month for the service. IBM's acquisition of the Weather Channel and subsequent pivot is to blame here.

I see. Thank you for the explanation. I suppose I will have to use NOAA weather data, which is not as complete as Wunderground.

You can also try the Fantastic Weather plugin which gets data from Dark Sky.

We totally saw this coming when IBM acquired all this stuff (in fact the standalone plugin WUnderground was discontinued because of it). A real shame.

I am trialing Fantastic Weather... like it so far. The only thing missing is today's precipitation and two-day precipitation (e.g. 20 mm). This is important for my sprinklers to run more efficiently. Do you know of a good source?