Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

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Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:40 pm
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

Well I've tried any number of things and started with nothing more than the text in the example given... but like I said...it will only one command at a time. Not sure why, but only 1.

I'll try Telenet to see if I can figure anything out.

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Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:12 am
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

That should at least tell you if it's an issue with the plugin or whether your receiver simply has that limitation (which I haven't heard of before).

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Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:17 pm
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

Thanks Perry the Cynic. Just downloaded and setup a new device for my Denon x3400h.

I have read a few posts about how to handle Zones. My problem is when I try to power on both zones, the second zone doesn't power on.
I think this is because the first Zone needs a second or two to load the configuration (just guessing). If I run it again, once the first zone is on, the second zone powers on.

Any thoughts on how to build a delay without having to write a trigger or ???

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Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:18 pm
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

Ignore. I haven't used the delay feature before and just noticed it on the bottom.

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Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:58 pm
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

Is there a way to increase/decrease volume using a ramp rate?

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Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:37 pm
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

Sadly, not that I'm aware.

You could fashion a python script to do this for you, but in my case, once my Denon get one python command, it stops responding to subsequent commands.

What I ended up doing was to set the initial volume in Indigo, and then just increase it by 1 volume step to the volume I wanted, over the time I needed this to happen. Obviously, this took a lot of steps in Indigo, but was super simple to implement. Yes, the volume 'stepped' up as opposed to ramping up, but in my early morning case, it worked just fine.

Depending on the audio source you are using, (in some cases I'm using the Music App on my Indigo Server), the Local iTunes Plugin CAN do ramping...

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Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:59 am
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

jltnol, thanks for the ideas.

I tried the step down method you suggested. For whatever reason that approach interrupts the speakers for a split second at each step.

I'm using spotify...maybe I need to abandon Spotify for Apple Music. I've gotten use to Spotify (using for years) but I don't see why I can't make the switch.

Per your advise I'll take a look at how Indegodomo works with Apple Music.

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Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:07 am
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

So just so I understand, you are using the Denon's built in Spotify app, and when you have Indigo to increate the volume by just one 'step', you get a bit of silence during the increase.
I'm sure your answer will be "NO", but when you manually adjust the volume, do you get the same bit of silence? If your receiver connected via WiFI or ethernet?

And just for fun, I'll try the same on my receiver and see if run into the same issue.

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Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:23 am
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

jltnol,

I'm using the external Spotify app (not the one in Denon). I don't get the dropout when I manually change the volume. Using the Airfoil app to increase/decrease volume across a "group"
that includes the Denon. I have a 3 wired amps (only one is Denon) and a few wireless speakers. I use Airfoil to manage all audio in the house automation. I don't recall if it happens for just the Denon or the other amps/speakers. I'm going to split out my schedule into groups so that my audio routine is isolated (attached) that way I can make certain that I'm not doing something else that causes the drop-out.

Back to you later on the results.
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Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:29 pm
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

jltnol,

Issue seems to be with Airfoil as its not isolated to just the Denon receiver. I thought it was just the 3400H but it was because I was closest to those speakers...it happens with the Sonos, McIntosh, etc.

I also think it is unrelated to 'increasing' or 'decreasing' volume. I might be executing 'connect' routines and it has a delayed effect.

I'm going to post something on the Airfoil thread.

Thanks again!

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Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:57 am
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

Anybody else having an issue with the Denon Plugin? I'm on version 3.0, but it has stopped communicating with that receiver.

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Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:03 am
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Re: Cynical Denon - Denon and Marantz AV Receiver control

ignore. router issues.

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