Motion graphing - anyone done it/

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Motion graphing - anyone done it/

I have (Hue and zwave) motion detectors all over the house.

Trying to work out a way to graph motion.

It would be interesting to see where each part of the house was accessed during the day, ie how long was aroom occupied or visited during a 72 hour period.

Anyone done it and can share wisdom ?

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Re: Motion graphing - anyone done it/

Have a look at the Grafana plugin. Has a nice way of showing motion/activity per room.


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Re: Motion graphing - anyone done it/

Thanks looking at it now

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Re: Motion graphing - anyone done it/

Busta999 wrote:
I have (Hue and zwave) motion detectors all over the house.

Trying to work out a way to graph motion.

It would be interesting to see where each part of the house was accessed during the day, ie how long was aroom occupied or visited during a 72 hour period.

Anyone done it and can share wisdom ?

Can you say a bit more about what you'd like to accomplish? Maybe you don't yet know what you want (totally understandable), but if you have any visualization ideas, it would help.

Are you looking for a chart per room? Are you looking for a graphic that represents your whole home at once? If you have data on a room like this: empty = 0 / occupied = 1 (or False/True, etc.), we can work with it in the Matplotlib plugin.

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I have been using INDIGOplotD for years for many different plots. One of the most useful is tracking activity inside and outside the house.
Here is a plot showing two day activity.

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DaveL17 wrote:
Can you say a bit more about what you'd like to accomplish? Maybe you don't yet know what you want (totally understandable), but if you have any visualization ideas, it would help.

Are you looking for a chart per room? Are you looking for a graphic that represents your whole home at once? If you have data on a room like this: empty = 0 / occupied = 1 (or False/True, etc.), we can work with it in the Matplotlib plugin.


A good question indeed....

I need a rethink on how MatPlotLib works.

At the moment - as far as I can tell, every 15 minutes the current state of the motion detector is taken - whatever that state is, It is recorded to the csv. Then a graph plotted against that.

I guess I am looking for something more..

Well I don't really know.

Some sort of representation of the room usage.

i.e. Lounge in use for multiple hours, but a hallway/loo/bathroom/kitchen for shorter periods.

For the current way I use MPL it only captures longer term usage and will only capture transitory room usage occasionally.

I guess I need a way to capture date and time each time motion is triggered and its duration then represent that usage in a graph of multiple rooms.

Nothing fixed but I guess @elmwood's Graph maybe what I want.

Just casting around at the moment. :-)

Appreciate the input form people, very much appreciated

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Not to try to force fit a solution, but you can also use the Matplotlib plugin with external data. If you look at the plugin's wiki page--specifically the tutorials page--it shows one way to make custom CSV data that can be used with the plugin.

https://github.com/DaveL17/matplotlib/wiki

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Re: Motion graphing - anyone done it/

Dave

Thanks.

Not an urgent task...

Will spend more time researching.

Thanks for the pointers all...




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I am very into this idea- I plan to use the motion data to train an occupancy predicting agent I am using for a class.

I use Grafana to eyeball my zwave multisensors: Image

Note: Kitchen needs a new battery

Edit: I also use the Timed Devices plugin to handle when the room is unoccupied (rather than an off signal from the detectors)

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mundmc wrote:
I am very into this idea- I plan to use the motion data to train an occupancy predicting agent I am using for a class.

I use Grafana to eyeball my zwave multisensors: Image

Note: Kitchen needs a new battery

Edit: I also use the Timed Devices plugin to handle when the room is unoccupied (rather than an off signal from the detectors)


Can you run an explanation of the image please so I can understand what I am looking at?

Thanks

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Motion graphing - anyone done it/

Oh yeah, totally. So, Grafana (awesome plugin) allows you to view data like above. I forget the name of this kinda chart, but it was the second main display option.

So- every little line you see there is from motion activating the multisensor in that room. The multisensors fire “On” for 30 seconds to 1 minute, depending if I bought a Zooz or Monoprice clone. Since they are “On” very briefly in the course of a day, you see a bunch of little vertical lines for each room.

In this example, my kitchen multisensor ran out of juice after sending an “On” command, hence it never turned “Off,” and instead of a bunch of vertical lines, the entry is just opaque and stuck on “On.”

Does this clarify at all? If your question was about the deep learning training set, that’s best for another topic.

Edit: The hourly markers were cut off in the screen grab i captured from my iphone- the x-axis shows activity over 24 hours, reflecting Sunday Feb 17th.


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Use motion sensors and light on in a zone room. Several use cases- room usage, energy use and art rooms.
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