Keypad button presses - unpredictable behavior

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Tue May 31, 2022 8:26 pm
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Keypad button presses - unpredictable behavior

I have a Lutron W6BRL keypad that I'm using to control z-wave, insteon and lutron devices. In Lutron essentials, the buttons are programmed to be Toggles. I'm trying to understand how I can manage what the buttons do.
Button #5 controls 2 triggers - on & off - that manage a single z-wave device. It behaves very nicely, cycling the device, and the button LED reflects the status of the device.
Button #2 also controls 2 triggers - on & off - that manage 2 on & off action groups.
Button #2 behaves unpredictably:
- 1) Only sending ON signals, and the LED always on
- 2) Sending an ON signal, followed by the OFF trigger (the event log below illustrates this case)
(I have no idea what I do to switch between these two results, neither of which is satisfactory).

The event log after pressing the keypad button with the LED off:
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May 31, 2022 at 6:16:31 PM
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        Received a keypad button/LED status message: ~DEVICE,64,2,3
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        buttonTriggerCheck: deviceID: 64, componentID: 2, gatewayID: 68394
   [b]Trigger                         b off/TV Audio ON
   Action Group                    b off/TV Audio ON[/b]
   Sent INSTEON                    "b off/TV AnthemSonySonos AV aud vid" on
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        buttonMultiPressCheck: Timeout reached for keypadid = 68394:64.2, presses = 1
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        Received a keypad button/LED status message: ~DEVICE,64,2,4
   [b]Trigger                         b off/TV Audio OFF
   Action Group                    b off/TV Audio OFF[/b]
   Sent INSTEON                    "b off/TV AnthemSonySonos AV aud vid" off

Above, the off trigger followed the on quickly (1-2 secs, with no additional button presses).

The Lutron iOS app only sends ON signals, and the button on the iOS never indicates on, but there is no off signal, as there is above with the keypad.
When the device is off, pressing ON on the Lutron app:
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May 31, 2022 at 7:11:26 PM
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        Received a keypad button/LED status message: ~DEVICE,64,2,3
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        buttonTriggerCheck: deviceID: 64, componentID: 2, gatewayID: 68394
   Trigger                         b off/TV Audio ON
   Action Group                    b off/TV Audio ON
   Sent INSTEON                    "b off/TV AnthemSonySonos AV aud vid" on
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        buttonMultiPressCheck: Timeout reached for keypadid = 68394:64.2, presses = 1


Pressing the app a second time, it does nothing:
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May 31, 2022 at 7:11:44 PM
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        Received a keypad button/LED status message: ~DEVICE,64,2,3
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        buttonTriggerCheck: deviceID: 64, componentID: 2, gatewayID: 68394
   Lutron RRA2/Caséta Debug        buttonMultiPressCheck: Timeout reached for keypadid = 68394:64.2, presses = 1


To test the triggers and action groups in Indigo, I did the following:
1) executed the triggers manually, they performed as desired:
ON
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May 31, 2022 at 6:49:10 PM
   Trigger                         b off/TV Audio ON
   Action Group                    b off/TV Audio ON
   Sent INSTEON                    "b off/TV AnthemSonySonos AV aud vid" on

and OFF
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May 31, 2022 at 6:49:26 PM
   Trigger                         b off/TV Audio OFF
   Action Group                    b off/TV Audio OFF
   Sent INSTEON                    "b off/TV AnthemSonySonos AV aud vid" off



To be absolutely certain, I also tested the Action Groups by manually executing them:
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May 31, 2022 at 6:17:34 PM
   Action Group                    b off/TV Audio ON
   Sent INSTEON                    "b off/TV AnthemSonySonos AV aud vid" on

May 31, 2022 at 6:17:58 PM
   Action Group                    b off/TV Audio OFF
   Sent INSTEON                    "b off/TV AnthemSonySonos AV aud vid" off


Since the triggers and the associated action groups behave as expected when manually executed from Indigo, my guess is that the problem is the is the Lutron/Indigo interaction. And since the keypad button presses differs from the iOS app, perhaps this is a clue?

I'm going a little crazy trying to implement the Lutron keypads, that sometimes work, and sometimes not.
If anyone has had a similar experience and has an idea what I might be doing wrong, or how I might fix this, I'd be very grateful. (Note - I tried manually turning both the buttons and the button LEDs on/off in the action groups, with no success).

Posted on
Tue May 31, 2022 8:36 pm
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Re: Keypad button presses - unpredictable behavior

Pro tip - use CODE tags for logs, not QUOTE.

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Tue May 31, 2022 8:44 pm
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Re: Keypad button presses - unpredictable behavior

Thanks. Will do.

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