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Re: Indigo Users' Matter Thread

The only downside to these if you ask me is that it might be hard to find a filament that's a perfect match for the switch color.

Sandpaper, 3d print finishing epoxy, and spray paint do wonders...

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Yes the jumbo size would let you build so many more things - like you said great new features too - but it is a ton of money, maybe if I win the lottery :-)

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+1 for the Prusa i3 MK3S (or Prusa i3 MK3S+ as it is now).

More expensive than some others but flawless printing, in my experience.

I built mine from the kit which was easy to do with some of the best assembly instructions I have ever used! :)

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Yes the jumbo size would let you build so many more things - like you said great new features too - but it is a ton of money, maybe if I win the lottery

That's why you pre-arrange a buyer for your existing i3 Mk3S along with enclosure and MMU2. Makes it somewhat affordable. :-) Helps to have people you know whose (non-Prusa) just died and want to upgrade...

I built mine from the kit which was easy to do with some of the best assembly instructions I have ever used!

HIGHLY recommend this as well, really lets you learn the printer and understand it (and thus any required troubleshooting) better. Also, since they offer upgrades to almost every new version they come up with, having assembled it originally helps in doing the upgrades.

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Just noticed this - seems like a good knowledge base - I might check into it more - lots to know when messing with the world of 3D printing…

Welcome to Prusa Academy: online courses on various 3D printing related topics - Original Prusa 3D Printers

https://blog.prusa3d.com/welcome-to-pru ... ics_67861/

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rehafer wrote:
Of course, we won’t see any actual product announcements until the final, version 1.0, Matter standard is published.

I understand the general thinking, however I am seeing some companies already making announcements (admittedly some of them a bit soft on details) about future Thread and Matter compatibility of current and future products.

Examples:
  • Amazon has already made announcements about which of their Alexa products will have future Matter support.
  • Apple has made several public commitments to add Matter support to their line of Homekit framework across multiple platforms.
  • Aqara has announced which of their current line of hubs will add Matter support.
  • Belkin said their WeMo line will support Matter
  • Lots of router and WiFi companies are announcing that their products will act as Thread border routers and thus will "support' Matter.
  • Eve has already announced Matter support for both existing and future products.
  • GE announced Matter support for their Cync line of products.
  • Nanoleaf announced future Matter support via upgrade for several existing products.
  • Philips says their existing Hue Bridge will be upgraded to provide Matter support for their entire current and future Hue product line.
  • etc....

So i'm just saying, it's not too early for players to start making public statements about their plans. Matter has been around a few years now.

Will some of the above examples turn out to be vaporware? Undoubtedly. Could the entire Matter initiative go down in flames? It's possible, but I think unlikely. In any case does that mean one should just ignore what's going on until some arbitrary 1.0-release date? I don't think so (and that's why I started this thread). I personally see Matter as already influencing my decisions on things like what to buy and how to shape my HA architecture, including the future role of Indigo in my system.

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I hope the matter standard makes home automation better - but I’ll bet it will take a long time and that is likely the best case scenario .

For many years I worked on a complex communications system — the specifications ran into thousands of pages. It was implemented by many companies here in the US and also many international companies in other nations.

With a complex specification (even after many years) different organizations interpreted the language of the specification differently and that led to implementation differences which in turn led to interoperability problems (some still exist today) - and I’m sure that will happen with matter to some extent. That will translate into a long process of specification updates to clarify the language and leave initial adopters in a crappy place for bad experiences (at best) to long term interoperability issues that go unfixed.

So, long story short, I have my fingers crossed but I don’t want to spend too much time or money to be an early user who feels the growing pains - just more of my two cents from an experienced very old fart :-)

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Mon May 16, 2022 8:43 am
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Re: Indigo Users' Matter Thread

I believe that the biggest winners with Matter will be device manufacturers that will only have to certify for one standard to sell to multiple ecosystems. Related to that is buyers who will have bigger selections if they use Matter.


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