Mutilroom mm wave presence sensor

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Be careful on the M100, there are wifi and zigbee versions. I mistakenly bought a wifi version first time round, and whilst it works, I cant connect it into indigo.

I now have my M100 nicely placed on the wall directly behind my TV, even using the TV's USB to power and all good. I get really consistent presence detection and can have the lights go out within a couple of minutes rather than 30 minutes that I had it set to before.

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siclark wrote:
Be careful on the M100, there are wifi and zigbee versions. I mistakenly bought a wifi version first time round, and whilst it works, I cant connect it into indigo.

I now have my M100 nicely placed on the wall directly behind my TV, even using the TV's USB to power and all good. I get really consistent presence detection and can have the lights go out within a couple of minutes rather than 30 minutes that I had it set to before.

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So it seems M100 is working fine :)

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I have bought from ( in order of my preference due to previous orders and speed of delivery)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004625716720.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004450930450.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004358243488.html

The other types I have tried are

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004552185948.html
My view is JUST DONT!
Careful of this one as it comes in WiFi or Zigbee versions

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004334992402.html
Forgot I even ordered this one, can't remember how it worked but the fact I forgot says a lot, possibly Z2M did not support it at the time.
Careful of this one as it comes in WiFi or Zigbee versions

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Only the price, I have bought 2 from each store and are identical.

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I have just bought from the SmartAqara Store on Aliexpress and it was shipped same day, and airbourne on 3rd day.

That ceiling mounted one
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004334992402.html
Forgot I even ordered this one, can't remember how it worked but the fact I forgot says a lot, possibly Z2M did not support it at the time.


Should be the ceiling mains powered version of the M100 that I have, although doesnt say it specifically, ie equivalent to this one.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004704966668.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.10.74b31802thBxaF

I have this zigbee wall mounted one, but the ceiling one is interesting in that you should be able to mount into ceiling and power from a nearby light fitting for an discrete install.

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But you suggested to avoid it the Tuba one :)

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Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:41 am
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We have only said to avoid the Tuya PS-HPS, the big black box one.
The Tuya M100, the thin wall mount one or it’s in ceiling equivalent are good.

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siclark wrote:
The Tuya M100, the thin wall mount one or it’s in ceiling equivalent are good.

Just installed the ceiling mount in the garage (on the wall, don't ask!) , but it is working great, and the lux sensor is amazingly quick at updating as the door opens and closes.
Mine is also a Tuya M100 but has a 240v to 12v inline transformer and a 2.5mm barrel connector, but looking at AliExpress their are several looking the same but ranging from £12 to £44 and all seem to have different frequencies for the radar so a lottery on what you get, hence why I feel safer with the Aqara FP1.

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Great. Yes I read that there are different frequencies of mm wave used which presumably have different properties? Maybe more or less likely to penetrate walls, whether that is a good thing or not depends in use case.

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MarcoGT wrote:
Thanks a lot
I have to decide if go for FP1 or FP2


I can now answer that question.

I pre-ordered from Amazon UK the new Aqara FP2 sensor on 31st March and it arrived on 6th April.

Having played with it for a few days I can say it works with Indigo but I am not that impressed with the ‘updated’ features over the Aqara FP1.

As a presence sensor it works ok (but it sometimes does not see me 3 feet from it even when I move in a chair) but as for locating where you are in a room to me that is just not working reliably.

I await for the ‘influencers’ on YouTube to give their findings and perhaps show me how to set it up but at present it is an expensive device that for me does not offer what the FP1 does at almost 1/3 the price of the FP2.

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Re: Mutilroom mm wave presence sensor

CliveS wrote:
MarcoGT wrote:
Thanks a lot
I have to decide if go for FP1 or FP2


I can now answer that question.

I pre-ordered from Amazon UK the new Aqara FP2 sensor on 31st March and it arrived on 6th April.

Having played with it for a few days I can say it works with Indigo but I am not that impressed with the ‘updated’ features over the Aqara FP1.


How do you use the Aqara FP2 with Indigo?

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Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:56 am
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CliveS wrote:
MarcoGT wrote:
Thanks a lot
I have to decide if go for FP1 or FP2


I can now answer that question.

I pre-ordered from Amazon UK the new Aqara FP2 sensor on 31st March and it arrived on 6th April.

Having played with it for a few days I can say it works with Indigo but I am not that impressed with the ‘updated’ features over the Aqara FP1.

As a presence sensor it works ok (but it sometimes does not see me 3 feet from it even when I move in a chair) but as for locating where you are in a room to me that is just not working reliably.

I await for the ‘influencers’ on YouTube to give their findings and perhaps show me how to set it up but at present it is an expensive device that for me does not offer what the FP1 does at almost 1/3 the price of the FP2.
To be honest I'm less than impressed with the FP1. It detects movement well but fails at seeing me sitting on the sofa watching TV and so the lights still get turned off regularly.

I had hoped the FP2 would be better but not risking there money on one yet

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siclark wrote:
To be honest I'm less than impressed with the FP1. It detects movement well but fails at seeing me sitting on the sofa watching TV and so the lights still get turned off regularly.

I had hoped the FP2 would be better but not risking there money on one yet


Yes the FP1 needs very careful positioning, preferably not directly behind you, 6 foot above floor level and I have it 95% reliable but still have 2 FP1's in the Kitchen and Living rooms overlapping and in the living room, if the TV is more than 40w the lamps will not turn off anyway.

As for the FP2, had it now for 20 days and am getting to know its quirks, it triggers very fast on room entry and instant triggering when I sit in the recliner and when I get up, annoying that it will not allow overlapping so if you have a light turn on and off when in the chair region and then you end up in the dark until you get to the next region and Apple Home is pretty useless in getting that sorted, thankfully Indigo and python come to the rescue.

As for leaving the room, well for some reason it can take from 10 seconds to 30/40/50 plus seconds to register you have left which is strange when the regions set up in the room are triggered instantly but I hope Aqara will keep updating the firmware to tune it better, had 2 updates so far.

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