Indigo Domotics

This looks promising, and the developer’s name is familiar from the last code I used to log into iCloud circa 2012.

https://github.com/picklepete/pyicloud/ ... README.rst


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Great, now you are making me want to write a plugin for this with that library. Thanks.

autolog wrote:

FYI: If you have an Apple watch the you can ping your iPhone when the iPhone is in Do Not Disturb mode and the side button (shows orange) i.e. ringer is muted.

That’s what I do for my phone, but my wife and mother-in-Law don’t have Apple watches.

This link looks promising as well: https://github.com/manwhoami/FindMyiPho ... er/FMIP.py


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Colorado4Wheeler wrote:

Great, now you are making me want to write a plugin for this with that library. Thanks.

(Can’t say the thought didn’t occur to me that somebody with skills I lack might finish the project before I even figured out where to start, but I’ll still try)


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mundmc wrote:

(Can’t say the thought didn’t occur to me that somebody with skills I lack might finish the project before I even figured out where to start, but I’ll still try)

I'm not here to steal your thunder, brother, go for it! I thought you were tying to embed a script rather than create a plugin .

I really just want my wife and mother-in-Law to be able to find their phones.

I will keep experimenting with a script, but there is no thunder to be stolen, just inelegant code to be spared!


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Really? Apple actually supplies an API that will bypass the mute setting?

Can iOS not set priorities that bypass do not disturb features? Or play a sound upon receiving a notification (i.e. separate than a notification sound)? I was just throwing ideas out there, I guess I just assumed that would be on all the OSes... Wouldn't think it would run on a truly silent phone, just for vibrate. At any rate, might be a moot point given the other options proposed.

RogueProeliator wrote:

Really? Apple actually supplies an API that will bypass the mute setting?

Can iOS not set priorities that bypass do not disturb features? Or play a sound upon receiving a notification (i.e. separate than a notification sound)? I was just throwing ideas out there, I guess I just assumed that would be on all the OSes... Wouldn't think it would run on a truly silent phone, just for vibrate. At any rate, might be a moot point given the other options proposed.

I've never looked, but my guess is that Apple won't allow you to override mute settings. I've never seen any system-wide settings for priorities in notifications which would override default behaviors. And, frankly, I'm pretty sure I don't want to have to go through each app and tell it to be quiet!

To clarify, apps like XYFindIt and Tile allow for sound even when the device is in sleep mode or on vibrate.


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mundmc wrote:

To clarify, apps like XYFindIt and Tile allow for sound even when the device is in sleep mode or on vibrate.

I don't know these apps but doing a quick search and reading up on them gives me the impression that they are using the same basic functionality that you are pointing to in that library, utilizing the Apple iCloud interface to make something happen that the actual API for iOS doesn't permit. As Jay said, it would be pretty silly for Apple to open up the ability to override the settings when the settings are intended to be your global preferences. The iCloud Find My Phone is an exception because it's meant to be used in extreme circumstances and for a particular situation rather than a day-to-day feature.

mundmc wrote:

To clarify, apps like XYFindIt and Tile allow for sound even when the device is in sleep mode or on vibrate.

An API may exist, as I said I've not looked for it. It would be somewhat out of character for Apple though.

As Jay said, it would be pretty silly for Apple to open up the ability to override the settings when the settings are intended to be your global preferences.

FWIW, that isn't exactly what I was suggesting / asking. In Android, for instance, the default Do Not Disturb allows Events & Alarms through. You can authorize more applications or specific users (for calls/messages) through. You can always turn it on Total Silence an nothing at all gets through.

SO, it isn't an application-set deal and isn't going through each app, it is "All apps are silenced, except this one I say is okay" kind of thing. Anyway, iOS must not have that concept, no big deal was just a thought.

RogueProeliator wrote:

In Android, for instance, the default Do Not Disturb allows Events & Alarms through

Apple does that as well but not really for application notifications, it's more for whether or not you allow inbound calls to penetrate the DND setting based on if they ring multiple times in a row or if they are in a particular contact category. It's a blanket setting saying that you won't get disturbed by any notification sound, notification or vibration except for any callers you allow through - nothing on an app-by-app basis.

So here’s a not necessarily-indigo hack solution I found (but have not yet tested);

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/75567/how-to-have-a-specific-contact-make-a-ring-sound-even-in-silent-mode
“This is an old question but I stumbled on it when trying to find an answer for my iPhone 8. There is now a real solution to this problem— edit the contact and turn “Emergency Bypass On”. The text says it overrides Do Not Disturb, but I tested it and it overrides the silent switch too!”

So basically, phone is missing, use a phone-based plugin (provided the number is static), google voice, or whatever, with the “Emergency Bypass” feature. That’ll make it ring even on DND or vibrate.


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mundmc wrote:

So here’s a not necessarily-indigo hack solution I found (but have not yet tested);

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/75567/how-to-have-a-specific-contact-make-a-ring-sound-even-in-silent-mode
“This is an old question but I stumbled on it when trying to find an answer for my iPhone 8. There is now a real solution to this problem— edit the contact and turn “Emergency Bypass On”. The text says it overrides Do Not Disturb, but I tested it and it overrides the silent switch too!”

So basically, phone is missing, use a phone-based plugin (provided the number is static), google voice, or whatever, with the “Emergency Bypass” feature. That’ll make it ring even on DND or vibrate.

Nice sleuthing!