Sonoma

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Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:06 pm
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Sonoma

Just wondering how Indigo is working with Sonoma. Havne't upgraded yet.... not necessarily in a rush... but am curious if there are any show stopper issues with the upgrade....

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Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:10 pm
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Re: Sonoma

My dev system is Sonoma. No issues for me.

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Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:54 pm
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Re: Sonoma

All fine for me too.

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Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:15 pm
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Re: Sonoma

Thanks for the feedback.

Ill put the upgrade in motion in the AM for sure

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Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:57 am
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Re: Sonoma

So far I’ve found Sonoma pretty darn stable. Nothing particularly bothersome or problematic beyond some odd UI choices.


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Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:21 am
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Re: Sonoma

Indigo doesn't have Sonoma issues that we or the community have identified.

However, I will say that I've personally found a some very disturbing Sonoma bugs. In retrospect, I would have avoided upgrading and would have reverted if it were a straight-forward task. My first clue that thing were not going to go well should have been when I started downloading the Sonoma installer (not actually run against my boot volume, just download) and went off to lunch (which is my normal procedure since in the past it launched the installer and waited for me to select which volume to install on). Imagine my surprise when I came back after lunch to find that it had automatically installed over my existing install without any intervention.

And frankly it's been downhill from there. Some of you may have heard that an internal Apple email last week paused all new feature development so everyone could focus on bug fixes. For a week. I hate to tell Apple management this, but it's going to take more than a week to address all the issues in Sonoma. This is, in my opinion, the worst macOS release since High Sierra maybe? They desperately need another Snow Leopard release where the primary goal was to harden the OS by fixing the tons of outstanding bugs which I suspect have been reported.

Of course, this is just my take... :wink:

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Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:47 am
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jay (support) wrote:
For a week. I hate to tell Apple management this, but it's going to take more than a week to address all the issues in Sonoma. This is, in my opinion, the worst macOS release since High Sierra maybe?


Interesting how our experiences Have differed so. I was actually thinking it’s been remarkably stable. That’s not to say it’s perfect.. but so far I’ve had almost no issues. That said we probably use them in wildly varying ways.

That said I would very much like a Snow Leopard overhaul for both macOS and iOS. Some of the less core functionality like shortcuts is a mess.


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durosity wrote:
Some of the less core functionality like shortcuts is a mess.


I've spent the last several days on this exact issue, trying to harden our use of Shortcuts to work around the variety of Shortcut related bugs...

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You can harden it all you like, but you’re still gonna be working with jelly!


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Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:31 pm
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Re: Sonoma

So I've upgraded my Indigo Server to Sonoma, and all seems well. I don't really use this computer "hands on" as much as my others, so haven't noticed anything I have problems with

I hate to tell Apple management this, but it's going to take more than a week to address all the issues in Sonoma.


I also upgraded 2 other computers to Sonoma, and the Apple's bugs are REALLY beginning to annoy. And most of my complaints aren't new, but go back for a few OS updates. Spotlight seem useless on external SSD's for some reason(at least those in an OWC TB4 cage), File Sharing has been a mess, and as Apple piles on more "features", most of which I consider overkill, it makes getting anything done much harder, at least for me. Finding the correct settings in System Preferences is now a hours long affair.

But right now, I'm about to go outside and yell at the kids to get off my lawn.

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