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Re: Insteon Health Test Tool app now available

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:55 pm
by kw123
I checked the log file and the switch did on/off/on/off things before. It looks as if heavy insteon traffic triggers that behavior.

An additional benefit of the tool! Found a broken switch that could have killed my poolPump prematurely.

Karl

Re: Insteon Health Test Tool app now available

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:49 pm
by jay (support)
If that's one of those 2477SA load controllers, then unfortunately I'm not really surprised. They have been the most flakey of the powered INSTEON devices as of late.

Re: Insteon Health Test Tool app now available

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:19 pm
by kw123
is there anything better that can switch 10+Amp steady (PoolPump motor at start ~ 15-20Amps) at 220V

Any protocol insteon/ z-wave/ rfx.. would be ok.

Karl

Re: Insteon Health Test Tool app now available

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:17 am
by Bollar
It's nice to see the progress you've made on this one!

Re: Insteon Health Test Tool app now available

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:02 pm
by kw123
replaced the insteon 30Amp 220V switch(poolPump) with a new one (poolPump2 same firmware version0x3a)..... same result.
It starts to broadcast off/on/off/on, but it actually does not go on/off, it only broadcasts.

The other 30amp-220V is 3 inches away from this one does not show this broadcast behavior. It has firmware 0x41.

any idea what to do about this?

Karl

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Jul 5, 2014, 12:50:53 PM
  Survey Plugin                   1 Pass Survey Requested....
  Survey Plugin                   Survey Pass - 1
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" on (button 2) <== this is the new one.
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" off (button 2)
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" on (button 2)
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" on (button 2)
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" off (button 2)
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" on (button 2)
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" off (button 2)
  Survey Plugin                      poolPump Timed-Out, No Reply Received  <== this is the old one, it is disconnected
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" on (button 2)
  Received INSTEON                "poolPump2" off (button 2)
deleted some other messages on other devices

Re: Insteon Health Test Tool app now available

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:14 pm
by kw123
Did some more testing on the insteon 30amp 220V switch device:

firmware 0x41. seems to be ok, no broadcasts what so ever in some weeks.

With firmware x3a it sends broad casts when the relay inside is active.
This one is a NC relay, it only sends broad casts when the relay is the in OFF position, i.e. current has to run through the relay to keep it OFF.

When I run the survey tool, the switch only generates the broad casts when current runs through the relay to keep it open, NO broadcast when the relay is in the "ON" position i.e. no current needed to keep it on. This looks like some noise issue when the electronics consumes more power.

==> HERE the question to MATT, JAY: the status is not being changed to OFF in indigo when it receives a
Received INSTEON "poolPump2" off (button 2) ---- the device is physically actually still on

It stays on, even when the next "poolPump2" on(button 2) is received some minutes later.

Karl

Re: Insteon Health Test Tool app now available

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:15 am
by bschollnick2
kw123 wrote:
Did some more testing on the insteon 30amp 220V switch device:

firmware 0x41. seems to be ok, no broadcasts what so ever in some weeks.

With firmware x3a it sends broad casts when the relay inside is active.
This one is a NC relay, it only sends broad casts when the relay is the in OFF position, i.e. current has to run through the relay to keep it OFF.

When I run the survey tool, the switch only generates the broad casts when current runs through the relay to keep it open, NO broadcast when the relay is in the "ON" position i.e. no current needed to keep it on. This looks like some noise issue when the electronics consumes more power.

==> HERE the question to MATT, JAY: the status is not being changed to OFF in indigo when it receives a
Received INSTEON "poolPump2" off (button 2) ---- the device is physically actually still on

It stays on, even when the next "poolPump2" on(button 2) is received some minutes later.


Karl,

Drop me an email at Benjamin AT schollnick DOT net, and I'll send you a quick test version. The last version or two, changed the timing of the broadcasts. I want to try a few different versions that add back in some delay, so that we can see how this affects this switch. If a small delay will fix this, I'll add it into the code.

Re: Insteon Health Test Tool app now available

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:04 am
by bschollnick2
Folks,

Any support for the Indigo Survey Tool should be directed over to, viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12186.

Thanks. I don't want to hijack this thread.

- Ben