Indigo Domotics

I have some on order - should ship shortly I think.

The new Fibaro TRVs are also available for order.


Tim

Sevilsivle wrote:

The new Fibaro TRVs are also available for order.

I took a look at those before I discovered that the Spirits had become available. I don't think that the Fibaro TRV supports FLiRS - I could be wrong on this?
Having FLiRS should mean better battery life and more importantly, the device should respond instantly to any request sent to it. At the moment to get any sort of quick response I have to wake-up my Popp TRV devices every 5 minutes which isn't good for battery life.

I think I will go with the Spirits.
The FIBARO one look better, but it's also more expensive

Yassi

The good thing about the Spirit is that the display and controls are easy to see and use when mounted low on a radiator.
I had to remove the Danfoss LC13´s as SHMBO couldn't adjust the temperature directly and changing remotely took too long even when the wake up period was at 5 minutes.
I think the Fibaro can be controlled like a standard TRV by turning the knob. Instead of a temperature or number setting it changes colour from blue to red depending on the temperature set.
Attached a link to the user manual for the Spirit so that Matt and Jay can get to work
I will hold off until first reports of functionality are out before deciding which to purchase. A new Danfoss is apparently also on its way.

Tim

https://www.eurotronic.org/fileadmin/user_upload/eurotronic.org/Produktbilder/spirit_z_wave_plus/Spirit_Z-Wave_BAL_web_EN_view_04.pdf

Here is Indigo's Device Details:

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Indigo Device "133 - General Thermostat (v2)" Z-Wave Properties:
Indigo Z-Wave Version: 2.0.103
Node ID: 133
Model: General Thermostat (v2)
Model ID: 00030001
Manufacturer: EUROtronic
Manufacturer ID: 0148
Protocol Version: 4.61
Application Version: 0.15
Model Definition Version: 0
Library Type: 3
Class Name: General Thermostat (v2)
Class Hierarchy: 04 : 08 : 06
Command Class Base: 40
Command Versions: 40v1 80v1 43v1 85v1 86v1 55v1 98v1 59v1 5Av1 5Ev1 9Fv1 20v1 26v1 31v5 6Cv1 70v1 71v1 72v1 73v1 75v1 7Av1
Encryption Status: Supported but not Enabled
Multi-Endpoint Types: - none -
Multi-Endpoint Classes: - none -
Multi-Instance Counts: - none -
Features: routing, battery, beaming, security, frequentWaking
Neighbors: 2, 5, 6, 9, 10, 13, 14, 16, 17, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 29, 43, 46, 52, 98, 121
Associations: 1:[1]
Config Values: - none -


Yes, they have been delivered - testing now

FLiRS seems to work.
I presume the 'frequentWaking' in the device definition means FLiRS.

I pressed the Send Status Button and got this immediate response:

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19 Oct 2017, 12:56:05
   Z-Wave                          sent "133 - General Thermostat (v2)" mode status request
   Z-Wave                          received "133 - General Thermostat (v2)" mode is heat
   Z-Wave                          sent "133 - General Thermostat (v2)" temperature status request
   Z-Wave                          received "133 - General Thermostat (v2)" temperature update to 22.47 °C
   Z-Wave                          sent "133 - General Thermostat (v2)" heat setpoint status request
   Z-Wave                          received "133 - General Thermostat (v2)" heat setpoint is 22.0 °C
   Z-Wave                          sent "133 - General Thermostat (v2)" cool setpoint status request


Changing the setpoint works without any command queueing. This is great news and I think resolves one of the major issues with previous TRV implementations, which is that there was always a delay (based on wakeup frequency) before a command was executed.

I will now do some more testing to see how well I can integrate it into my Stella-Z plugin - it may need some coding changes.

autolog wrote:

Yes, they have been delivered - testing now

May I ask where you bought them?

Tim

Sevilsivle wrote:

May I ask where you bought them?

Yes

Z-Wave Eurotronic Spirit Smart Radiator Thermostat

autolog wrote:

Sevilsivle wrote:

May I ask where you bought them?

Yes

Z-Wave Eurotronic Spirit Smart Radiator Thermostat

Yikes....
At that price I guess it is worth waiting for them to become available here in Germany...

Tim

Do they ship to the UK

autolog wrote:

Do they ship to the UK

You have Mail!

Will they work out of box with Indigo?
I need only one for the bathroom radiator to turn it on in the morning and then again in the afternoon.

Do they work with Z-Wave Stick S2 (I do not have the Gen5).

Thanks

That would be also nice

https://www.amazon.de/Popp-Heizk%C3%B6r ... B01I5N9KFY

Does it work the the autolog plugin?

MarcoGT wrote:

That would be also nice
https://www.amazon.de/Popp-Heizk%C3%B6r ... B01I5N9KFY
Does it work the the autolog plugin?

Yes it does - I am using a number of them.