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Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:03 am
by davinci
I plan to make a wind sensor using a Fibaro RGBW module. However I have some questions in advance.
https://www.pce-instruments.com/deutsch/regeltechnik/sensor/windsensor-pce-instruments-windsensor-pce-fst-200-201-det_515054.htm

First, I already use one Fibaro RGBW for an LED strip (white only). Could I use the same module and use IN1 as an input for the sensor or do I need a separate module?

Second, how good is this for my network. It is quiet big and responsive but I can image that an update every few m/s could flood my Z-Wave network.

Thanks

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:33 am
by Different Computers
Just chiming in here to say I asked about anyone who used sensors with this module, and never got any responses. I would love to know what works, and how people did it.


viewtopic.php?f=58&t=18934

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:29 pm
by DaveL17
I could be wrong about this, but I don't believe at present that Indigo supports secondary sensors for the Fibaro modules. I suspect that they could be supported with a plugin (and may be supported by a plugin already.)

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:25 pm
by davinci
I was hoping to get a value that I can convert to my sensors data.

Could please someone confirm this?

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:16 pm
by matt (support)
Indigo only supports using the Fibaro RGBW to control LED strips. You could definitely create an Indigo plugin that receive the low-level Z-Wave messages as they come in, so it should be possible to add support for it. However, it will be a non-trivial amount of work.

I'm not sure if the messages would cause a congestion problem or not. Depends on how often they are sent and depends on how many nodes are required to hop the message to the Z-Stick. If it can directly reach the Z-Stick then sending a message per second might be acceptable. Personally, I wouldn't want to use Z-Wave for sending anything consistently faster than 1 message per second (from a single module).

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:08 pm
by srkinard
Yeah...you could probably use a Raspberry Pi Zero and Karl's piBeacon plugin for not only accurate multi-sensor capabilities but also the single-channel control of the LED strip...repurpose the Fibaro somewhere with a full RGBW strip maybe.

Ross

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:09 am
by davinci
So you don't support the only way to get normal sensors included to Indigo? Why??

There is no good wind sensor available for z-wave.
The POPP z-weather is a joke, you get values every 5 hours if the weather isn't sunny.

I'm using an Arduino but the wifi connection isn't ideal. I use a Sparkfun wind sensor, but one of the cups just broke after three years.

Is there support for the Z-Uno?


https://z-uno.z-wave.me/examples/MultilevelSensor/
https://z-uno.z-wave.me/Reference/Z-Wave/

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:28 am
by DaveL17
davinci wrote:
So you don't support the only way to get normal sensors included to Indigo? Why??

Can you say a little bit more about what you mean? What do you consider to be a "normal" sensor? I wouldn't consider attaching a wind sensor to an RGBW module to be an expected way to add such a thing to Indigo. Not to say that it isn't possible--just not what I personally would expect.

There are several different ways to include sensors in Indigo. If it were me, for local weather conditions, I'd do one of the following:

- a weather station with IP data,
- a weather station with RF data and an RFXTRX transceiver,
- a sensor(s) attached to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:53 am
by davinci
Well the Fibaro RGBW is designed to work with these sensors. They are usually much higher quality than what is on the market.

I will probably go the way by Z-Uno but again I need support from Indigo. I'm pretty sure an Arduino project like this follows the standard. So maybe it works, but what if not...

I was hoping to get more support with the new V7 subscription model, but I am not sure if this is the case.

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:20 am
by DaveL17
I think that's what makes this stuff so fantastic. The wide array of different ways to do things is a major plus and the list is getting bigger by the day. I don't think there's been a huge demand for the 0-10v features, but maybe someone has the interest and skills and could write a plugin to add support for it. As Matt says, it would be a non-trivial exercise and could account for a lot of traffic. Further, I think a UI based control would require a fair bit of engineering given the large number of things that could be connected. But it would be cool!

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:27 am
by davinci
I agree that there are a lot of possibilities.

In order to avoid too much traffic I want to use the Z-Uno and make my calculations on.the Arduino. Then every minute I can send two values. I just don't know if it works and - if not if I will get it to work by an update.

The Z-Uno is a great chip which enables you to make your own sensors or pretty much every imaginable Z-Wave device.

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:10 am
by matt (support)
davinci wrote:
So you don't support the only way to get normal sensors included to Indigo?

As we said above, we only support the Fibaro RGBW module for controlling RGBW strips.

davinci wrote:
Why??

Because it would be more work to implement and we haven't had enough demand to justify it. We do have on our Feature Request list some general Z-Wave improvements that will allow support for functionality like this (not specific to this module but it would work), but we haven't gotten to it yet.

Re: Wind sensor with Fibaro RGBW module

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:25 pm
by andarv
Connecting wind sensors to Fibaro RGBW module is a bit tricky not all 0-10v works. Make sure it's 0v.
Had that configuration in HC2, for me netatmo is accurate and fast enough.

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