Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

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Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:30 am
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Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

I don't suppose anyone's used this plugin with the current series of pioneer AV receivers have they? I'm planning to upgrade from a 922 (which works beautifully) for 4K support and I was hoping that either the VSX1131 or VSX831 had been confirmed as working.

Computer says no.

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Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:52 pm
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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Well I ordered one anyway.. fingers crossed it works out of the box.. :D

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Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:35 am
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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

I haven't heard of anyone using the plugin for the VSX-1131 or VSX-831, but I wouldn't know unless they tried to use it and it didn't work, as no one posts on the forum just to say "it works". I suspect it will partially work but won't work with all the features on those models.

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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Yeah that's kinda what I thought. It was the same when I got my 922 years ago we didn't know if it'd work and sure enough a little tweaking was required.

I'm picking up my new one this morning so we'll soon see if they've made any show stopper changes.

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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Well alas there's a show stopper.

Here's the log. Looks like it's not even communicating with the new box:

Code: Select all
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          deviceStopComm called: new device
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          validateDeviceConfig called. valuesDict: UiValuesDict : (dict)
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  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          deviceStartComm called: address : 192.168.1.73
batteryLevel : None
buttonGroupCount : 0
configured : True
description :
deviceTypeId : vsx1123k
displayStateId : status
displayStateImageSel : None
displayStateValRaw :
displayStateValUi :
enabled : True
energyAccumBaseTime : None
energyAccumTimeDelta : None
energyAccumTotal : None
energyCurLevel : None
errorState :
folderId : 16598138
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lastChanged : 2016-10-24 17:23:12
model : VSX-1123-K
name : new device
ownerProps : com.nathansheldon.indigoplugin.PioneerReceiver : (dict)
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     operatingMode :  (string)
     outputChannels :  (string)
     panelKeyLockMode :  (string)
     phaseControl :  (string)
     phaseControlPlusReversed : false (bool)
     phaseControlPlusTime : 0 (integer)
     phaseControlPlusWorkingTime : 0 (integer)
     pl2musicCenterWidth : 0 (integer)
     pl2musicDimension : 0 (integer)
     pl2musicPanorama : off (on/off bool)
     pl2zHeightGain :  (string)
     pqls : off (on/off bool)
     pqlsMode :  (string)
     remoteLock : off (on/off bool)
     sacdGain : 0 (integer)
     signalSource :  (string)
     siriusChannel : 0 (integer)
     sleepMode : off (on/off bool)
     sleepTime : 0 (integer)
     soundDelay : 0 (integer)
     soundRetriever : off (on/off bool)
     speakerSystem :  (string)
     speakers :  (string)
     standingWave : off (on/off bool)
     status :  (string)
     toneBass : 0 (integer)
     toneControl : off (on/off bool)
     toneTreble : 0 (integer)
     tunerBand :  (string)
     tunerFrequency : 0 (integer)
     tunerFrequencyText :  (string)
     tunerPreset :  (string)
     vht : off (on/off bool)
     videoAdvancedAdjust :  (string)
     videoConverter : off (on/off bool)
     videoDetail : 0 (integer)
     videoInputAspect :  (string)
     videoInputBitDepth :  (string)
     videoInputColorFormat :  (string)
     videoInputColorSpace :  (string)
     videoInputResolution :  (string)
     videoInputTerminal :  (string)
     videoOutputAspect :  (string)
     videoOutputBitDepth :  (string)
     videoOutputColorFormat :  (string)
     videoOutputColorSpace :  (string)
     videoOutputResolution :  (string)
     videoProgressiveQuality : 0 (integer)
     videoPureCinema :  (string)
     videoResolution :  (string)
     videoYNR : 0 (integer)
     vsb : off (on/off bool)
     vsp :  (string)
     zone1mute : off (on/off bool)
     zone1power : off (on/off bool)
     zone1source : 0 (integer)
     zone1sourceName :  (string)
     zone1volume : 0 (integer)
     zone2mute : off (on/off bool)
     zone2power : off (on/off bool)
     zone2source : 0 (integer)
     zone2sourceName :  (string)
     zone2volume : 0 (integer)
subModel :
supportsAllLightsOnOff : False
supportsAllOff : False
supportsStatusRequest : False
version : 0
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          deviceStartComm: adding vsx1123k deviceId 383394497 to deviceList.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: Connecting to new device at 192.168.1.73
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceState: Updating device new device state: status = connecting
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          didDeviceCommPropertyChange called.
  Pioneer Receiver Error          Unable to establish a connection to new device: [Errno 61] Connection refused. Will try again in 30.0 seconds.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          didDeviceCommPropertyChange called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: Connection wait count: 150
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connected? False
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connecting? True
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: Connection wait count: 200
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connected? False
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connecting? True
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: Connection wait count: 250
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connected? False
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connecting? True
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: Connection wait count: 300
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connected? False
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connecting? True
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          didDeviceCommPropertyChange called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: Re-connect wait period over. Will try to connect next time the connect method is called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: Connection wait count: 0
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect method called.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connected? False
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: new device connecting? False
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          updateDeviceProps: Updating device new device properties.
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          connect: Connecting to new device at 192.168.1.73
  Pioneer Receiver Debug          didDeviceCommPropertyChange called.
  Pioneer Receiver Error          Unable to establish a connection to new device: [Errno 61] Connection refused. Will try again in 30.0 seconds.

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Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:04 pm
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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Did you enable the "Network Standby" feature in the Network Setup on the receiver?

Also, are you able to connect to the receiver using their iControl app on your mobile device? Pioneer has only published IP command codes for the VSX-1130 and VSX-830 and only have IR codes for the 1131 and 831 so far. It's possible they just haven't gotten around to publishing the IP commands for the 1131/831 as they're not likely to be much different. Or, those models aren't intended to be controlled via IP any longer. Not sure.

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Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Yeah the iControlAV5 app works perfectly and the network standby option is active.

I sure as heck hope they do publish for the 1131 otherwise I'll be a very sad boy!

There doesn't seem to be much spec wise different from the 1130, just the new DTS:X or whatever it's called and a few other things but nothing that suggests an overhaul.

Any way I can test if the 1130 commands would work?

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Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:30 pm
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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

If the iControl app works, then it should be possible to control the receiver from something like Indigo and the Pioneer Receiver plugin.

The errors you reported indicate that the Pioneer Receiver plugin isn't even able to connect to the receiver (the connection was refused by the receiver), so there's no way to test the VSX-1130 commands. The 1130 basic commands won't be any different anyway. The Power, Volume and Source select commands haven't changed since Pioneer started allowing IP control of their receivers. What has changed, however, is how many connections and on what ports on which they allow you to connect. Some receivers allow 2 simultaneous connections (one from the iControlAV app on a high number port and one from a custom integration source like Indigo on the standard telnet port 23), while other receivers only allow one connection at a time (on the high numbered iControlAV port).

Be sure your receiver is using the IP address 192.168.1.73. If it's not, that's probably the problem. If it is, to see if the 1131 allows the standard telnet port connection, open up a terminal window on your Mac and type "telnet 192.168.1.73" and hit Return. If you see something like "BridgeCo AG..." or something other than "Connection refused" then the plugin should work. If you see "Connection refused" then there's going to be some hunting involved to find out which port the iControlAV app uses.

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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Once you confirm the IP address of the receiver, you can use the Network Utility (in the Utilities folder) to do a port scan on that IP. It will attempt to open a network connection to each port in the specified range (or all possible ports) and let you know which ones accept a connection.

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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Yeah it's definitely using .73. I'll check on the telnet connection when I get back home.. I forget that still exists :/. Failing that I'll do the port scan as Jay suggested.

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Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Well bad news.. no port 23:

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Port Scan has started…

Port Scanning host: 192.168.1.73

    Open TCP Port:    22           ssh
    Open TCP Port:    80           http
    Open TCP Port:    5000         commplex-main
    Open TCP Port:    8080         http-alt
    Open TCP Port:    8888         ddi-tcp-1
    Open TCP Port:    46487
    Open TCP Port:    60128
Port Scan has completed…


Unfortunately telnetting to any of those ports results in either a time out or an error.

An SSH connection to port 22 prompts for a password that i'm not aware of nor can i find any reference to on tinterwebs.

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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

oh now this is possibly interesting.. after leaving it open for a while i found that on port 60128 i got some traffic.

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Last login: Mon Oct 24 21:55:17 on ttys005
Sliver:~ Mike$ telnet 192.168.1.73 60128
Trying 192.168.1.73...
Connected to 192.168.1.73.
Escape character is '^]'.
ISCP
!1SLI02
ISCP$!1FLD4170706C65205456202D31392E35
ISCP$!1FLD53797374656D2053657475702020
ISCP$!1FLD496E2F4F75742041737369676E20
ISCP$!1FLD4861726477617265202020202020
ISCP$!1FLD48444D4920202020202020202020
ISCP$!1FLD506F77204D616E6167656D656E74
ISCP$!1FLD536C6565702020203A204F666620
ISCP$!1FLD4175746F2053746279203A4F6666
ISCP$!1FLD55534220506F776572203A4F6E20
ISCP$!1FLD4E4554205374627920203A4F6E20
ISCP
    !1NSBOFF
ISCP$!1FLD4E4554205374627920203A4F6666
ISCP
!1NSBON
ISCP$!1FLD4E4554205374627920203A4F6E20
ISCP$!1FLD4170706C65205456202D31392E35
ISCP
    !1NLSC0P
ISCP!1NLSU0-TuneIn
ISCP!1NLSU1-Pandora
ISCP!1NLSU2-Spotify
ISCP!1NLSU3-Deezer
ISCP!1NLSU4-AirPlay
ISCP!1NLSU5-Music Server
ISCP$!1FLD53797374656D2053657475702020
ISCP$!1FLD4861726477617265202020202020
ISCP$!1FLD48444D4920202020202020202020
ISCP$!1FLD506F77204D616E6167656D656E74
ISCP$!1FLD536C6565702020203A204F666620
ISCP$!1FLD4175746F2053746279203A4F6666
ISCP$!1FLD55534220506F776572203A4F6E20
ISCP$!1FLD4E4554205374627920203A4F6E20
ISCP$!1FLD42542057616B657570203A4F6666
ISCP$!1FLD42542057616B657570203A4F6E20
ISCP$!1FLD42542057616B657570203A4F6666
ISCP$!1FLD42542057616B657570203A4F6E20
ISCP$!1FLD4170706C65205456202D31392E35
ISCP$!1FLD53797374656D2053657475702020
ISCP$!1FLD4D43414343202020202020202020
ISCP$!1FLD4E6574776F726B20202020202020
ISCP$!1FLD57692D466920202020203A4F6666
ISCP$!1FLD4D41432041646472657373202020
ISCP$!1FLD4448435020203A44697361626C65
ISCP$!1FLD4950204164647265737320202020
ISCP$!1FLD5375626E6574204D61736B202020
ISCP$!1FLD4761746577617920202020202020
ISCP$!1FLD444E532053657276657220202020
ISCP$!1FLD50726F78792055524C2020202020
ISCP$!1FLD467269656E646C79204E616D6520
ISCP$!1FLD3A5653582D313133312020202020
ISCP$!1FLD50726F78792055524C2020202020
ISCP$!1FLD467269656E646C79204E616D6520
ISCP$!1FLD416972506C617920505720202020
ISCP$!1FLD557361676520446174613A596573
ISCP$!1FLD5B456E7465725D3A44657461696C
ISCP$!1FLD4E6574776F726B20436865636B20
ISCP$!1FLD557361676520446174613A596573
ISCP$!1FLD41677265653F202020203A596573
ISCP$!1FLD557361676520446174613A596573
ISCP$!1FLD4E6574776F726B20436865636B20
ISCP$!1FLD436865636B204E6574776F726B20
ISCP$!1FLD5375636365737366756C20202020
ISCP$!1FLD5B456E7465725D3A204261636B20
ISCP$!1FLD4E6574776F726B20436865636B20
ISCP$!1FLD5B456E7465725D3A537461727420
ISCP$!1FLD4E6574776F726B20436865636B20
ISCP$!1FLD5B456E7465725D3A537461727420
ISCP$!1FLD4E6574776F726B20436865636B20
ISCP$!1FLD557361676520446174613A596573
ISCP$!1FLD416972506C617920505720202020
ISCP$!1FLD467269656E646C79204E616D6520
ISCP$!1FLD50726F78792055524C2020202020
ISCP$!1FLD444E532053657276657220202020
ISCP$!1FLD4761746577617920202020202020
ISCP$!1FLD5375626E6574204D61736B202020
ISCP$!1FLD4950204164647265737320202020
ISCP$!1FLD4448435020203A44697361626C65
ISCP$!1FLD4D41432041646472657373202020
ISCP$!1FLD57692D466920202020203A4F6666
ISCP$!1FLD202020576169742E2E2E20202020
ISCP
    !1NDSW-x
ISCP$!1FLD57692D466920202020203A4F6E20
ISCP$!1FLD202020576169742E2E2E20202020
ISCP
    !1NDSE-x
ISCP$!1FLD57692D466920202020203A4F6666
ISCP$!1FLD4D41432041646472657373202020
ISCP$!1FLD3A3030303942302D444442383038
ISCP$!1FLD4D41432041646472657373202020
ISCP$!1FLD3A3030303942302D444442383038
ISCP$!1FLD4D41432041646472657373202020
ISCP$!1FLD3A3030303942302D444442383038
ISCP$!1FLD4170706C65205456202D31392E35
ISCP
!1SLI12
ISCP$!1FLD5456202020202020202D31392E35
ISCP
!1AMT01
ISCP
!1AMT00
ISCP
!1PWR01
ISCP
!1PWR01
ISCP
!1ZPW00
ISCP
!1SLI12
ISCP
!1HOI11
ISCP
!1HSTAT
ISCP!1FWV1030802031030000
ISCP!1FWV1030802031030000
ISCP
!1PWR01
ISCP!1FWV1030802031030000
ISCP
!1UPD00
ISCP
!1PWR01
ISCP!1FWV1030802031030000


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Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:33 pm
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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Interesting. I wonder if they're using SSH instead of telnet with their newest models. If so, that would certainly throw a wrench into things.

For the ports that you got errors on, were the connection refused errors or something else? If they were connection refused, make sure none of your mobile devices are connected via the iControlAV app as, at least on previous Pioneer models, it only allows 1 connection at a time via the iControlAV app.

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Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:48 pm
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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

IControlAV5 was closed at the time (force quit too just to be sure), however I suppose it's possible the AV Receiver hadn't killed the connection yet. I've quit the apps again and I'm gonna leave it 10 mins in the hope that'll time out any connections.

I don't like the sound of wrenches in the works. I want a niiiice smooth everything works system ;)

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Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:54 pm
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Re: Pioneer VSX-1131 or 831 support

Oh i just stumbled across something.. on my iPad i accidentally opened the iControl2012 app for the old VSX-922 and it shows both my old one and the new one on discovered devices. However it also adds a bit of info i don't think the new one does.. it specifically lists the port used as 8102 on the 922 and 60128 on the new one. 60128 is the one i've been able to get to list strings of information any time there's a change on the AV receiver.. so at the very least it looks like we can read the information from it, e.g.

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"ISCP
!1MVL82
ISCP$!1FLD566F6C756D652020202D31372E30
ISCP$!1FLD5456202020202020202D31372E30


That appears to be the volume increasing by 1 unit. The 1st and 2nd lines appear almost immediately.. the 3rd about 2 seconds later. Verification that its increased perhaps?

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