Probem with Z-wave optimization

Posted on
Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:29 am
richo offline
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Probem with Z-wave optimization

I have noticed many problems with optimization procedure. In my opinion battery devices should get optimized after main powered as in such case they will get optimised after right neighbours lists are present at most of the main devices.
Preferably it would be good the have the possibility to have a choice to optimize battery and main powered devices separately.

The other issue is that after almost 6 hours non of the battery devices started the optimization !? See the log:

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   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - stopped
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "007 - SR-Roleta Gabinet"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "011 - SL-Lampa przy drzwiach"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "013 - DL-Kinkiety przy WC"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "014 - DL-Plafon nad drzwiami w hallu"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "015 - DL-Gorne przy kuchni"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "018 - DL-Gorne salonu"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "019 - DL-Kinkiety salon"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "020 - SL-Gorne w kuchni"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "021 - DL-Lampa stojaca"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "022 - SL-Halogeny nad blatem"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "023 - SK-Kamera kuchnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "024 - SL-Kinkiet taras"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "026 - SR-Roleta srodek kuchnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "027 - SR-Roleta prawa kuchnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "032 - SI-Zamek furtki"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "034 - DL-Kinkiet front domu"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "036 - SI-RTV Salon"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "038 - SI-RTV Gabinet"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "040 - DL-Plafon schody dol"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "041 - DL-Plafon piwnica"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "042 - DL-Plafony boczne garaz"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "044 - SI-Zraszacz taras"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "045 - SL-Halogeny pod szafkami"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "046 - SI-Pralka"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "054 - SL-Lampy ogrodowe z tylu"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "055 - SI-Zraszacz przod"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "056 - CR-Czujnik bramy garazu"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "058 - SI-Otwieranie bramy garazu"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "060 - SR-Markiza gora"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "062 - DL-Kinkiet schody gora"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "083 - DL-Kinkiet obok grzegorza"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "106 - CI-Przelacznik scen salon"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "108 - TD-Termostat WC prawy"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "109 - TD-Termostat Hall"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "110 - TD-Termostat WC lewy"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "113 - TD-Termostat Kuchnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "120 - TD-Termostat Lazienka"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "121 - TD-Termostat Sypialnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "125 - TD-Termostat Pralnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "126 - CR-Okno Gabinet"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "128 - CR-Okno sypialnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "129 - CR-Okno lazienka"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "130 - CR-Szafa na pietrze"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "132 - CR-Okno WC"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "133 - CR-Okno Kuchnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "134 - CR-Drzwi na taras"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "148 - TD-Termostat Grzegorza Lewy"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "149 - TD-Termostat Grzegorza Prawy"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "155 - CT-Temperatura sypialnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "157 - CR-Okno Grzegorza"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "158 - CR-Okno Goscinny"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "159 - CR-Okno pralnia"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "160 - CR-Oko"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "162 - CR-Wolny podloga lazienka"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "163 - CR-Dachowe Gabinet"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "177 - CR-Drzwi do ogrodu"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "178 - TD-Termostat Goscinny"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "182 - CZ-Czujnik zalania piwnica"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "183 - TD-Termostat Schody"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "188 - CG - Licznik Gazu"
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update queued for next awake message: "192 - TD-Termostat Gabinet"
   Z-Wave Error                    Optimizing - update failed: "025 - SR-Roleta lewa kuchnia"
   Z-Wave Error                    Optimizing - update failed: "047 - SI-Piec CO"
   Z-Wave Error                    Optimizing - update failed: "063 - DL-Gorne schody"


There is also some issue with Danfoss Thermostats as in general after they are awake the optimization failes:

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Z-Wave                          received "TD-Termostat Gabinet" heat setpoint is 22.00 °C
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - starting for awake device "192 - TD-Termostat Gabinet"
   Z-Wave                          requesting neighbor list update

20 Jan 2017, 16:15:48
   Z-Wave                          neighbor list update failed
   Z-Wave Error                    Optimizing - update failed: "192 - TD-Termostat Gabinet"

20 Jan 2017, 16:16:05
   Z-Wave                          received "TD-Termostat Hall" heat setpoint is 21.00 °C
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - starting for awake device "177 - CR-Drzwi do ogrodu"
   Z-Wave                          requesting neighbor list update
   WebServer                       Indigo Touch client connected from 192.168.0.111
   Z-Wave                          received "TD-Termostat Grzegorza Prawy" heat setpoint is 21.00 °C
   Z-Wave                          neighbor list updated from 7, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 32, 34, 36, 38, 42, 44, 45, 46, 54, 55, 58, 60, 63, 84, 86, 88, 90, 101, 102, 164, 168, 169, 170, 172, 174, 176, 180, 181, 185, 186 to 7, 11, 13, 14, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 54, 55, 58, 60, 62, 63, 83, 84, 85, 86, 88, 90, 100, 101, 102, 164, 168, 169, 170, 172, 174, 175, 176, 180, 181, 185, 186, 200
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - update succeeded: "177 - CR-Drzwi do ogrodu"
   Z-Wave                          received "TD-Termostat WC lewy" heat setpoint is 22.00 °C
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - starting for awake device "110 - TD-Termostat WC lewy"
   Z-Wave                          requesting neighbor list update

20 Jan 2017, 16:17:13
   Z-Wave                          neighbor list update failed
   Z-Wave Error                    Optimizing - update failed: "110 - TD-Termostat WC lewy"

20 Jan 2017, 16:17:52
   Z-Wave                          received "TD-Termostat Goscinny" heat setpoint is 19.00 °C
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - starting for awake device "178 - TD-Termostat Goscinny"
   Z-Wave                          requesting neighbor list update

20 Jan 2017, 16:18:30
   Z-Wave                          neighbor list update failed
   Z-Wave Error                    Optimizing - update failed: "178 - TD-Termostat Goscinny"
   Z-Wave                          received "TD-Termostat Sypialnia" heat setpoint is 19.00 °C
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - starting for awake device "121 - TD-Termostat Sypialnia"
   Z-Wave                          requesting neighbor list update

20 Jan 2017, 16:19:24
   Z-Wave                          neighbor list update failed
   Z-Wave Error                    Optimizing - update failed: "121 - TD-Termostat Sypialnia"
   Z-Wave                          received "TD-Termostat Kuchnia" heat setpoint is 26.00 °C
   Z-Wave                          Optimizing - starting for awake device "113 - TD-Termostat Kuchnia"
   Z-Wave                          requesting neighbor list update


My suggestion is to improve that procedure as it's very important for network stability especially after you remove or change any device.

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Posted on
Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:28 am
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Re: Probem with Z-wave optimization

richo wrote:
I have noticed many problems with optimization procedure. In my opinion battery devices should get optimized after main powered as in such case they will get optimised after right neighbours lists are present at most of the main devices.
Preferably it would be good the have the possibility to have a choice to optimize battery and main powered devices separately.

The battery modules are optimized first so that you can optionally wake those modules during the optimization process. If you don't wake the modules, then they are skipped and will be processed the next time they wake (which will likely be after the powered modules have optimized). We are considering adding options to optimize the 2 different sets of modules (battery and powered) in groups.

richo wrote:
The other issue is that after almost 6 hours non of the battery devices started the optimization !?

Indigo will send the commands to optimize the module the next time they wake. The wake interval is a device level setting. Did you wait long enough for them to wake? Note also that restarting the Indigo Server clears out the optimization process. So if restarted you'll need to re-issue the optimization command.

richo wrote:
There is also some issue with Danfoss Thermostats as in general after they are awake the optimization fails

Unfortunately, it looks like those modules are going back to sleep and the optimization cannot complete. I don't know of anyway Indigo can fix that. You might have to manually optimize those modules individually and make sure the module stays awake during the process.

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